ah guess ah should also feel sorry for him or whatever

Never should have


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83 thoughts on “Never should have

  1. Asma sounds like one of the dozens of angry commenters who show up every day

    1. Don’t be silly, we would never apologize.

    2. And she’s not wrong, either!

      In all seriousness, it’s nice to see some people start reacting to these two dorks in a way more befitting the way they’ve been acting.

    3. Asma has some real shit going on in her life… possibly like some of the commenters you mention, but she’s still handling what she’s going through better than a lot of people would.

  2. If Dorothy and Joyce had thought bubbles in panel 4:

    Dorothy: “Of course Danny’s angry. We’ve acted terribly. I’m the worst.”
    Joyce: “Who?”

    1. ‘hat guy’ tho you’d think the ‘street cred’ of dating sal would make her remember his name now lol

      1. Hat Guy is dating Sal?”
        “His name’s wonderbread! Ah mean, Danny. Shit.”

      2. I’m quite certain she knows his name but she’s being a dismissive b-hole to him for the same she is a b-hole to Walky: They both dated Dorothy.

  3. Well at least she’s giving them a heads-up? Also I’m glad at least one person from their friend group is “superpissed.”

  4. I like everything about this strip except Asma apologizing.

    1. No she’s saying sorry to us.

      1. Well, on behalf of every single person who’s ever so much as heard of this comic, I unilaterally reject Asma’s apology, because she’s performed no wrongdoing of any sort.

        1. Hey, I assumed she was apologizing to Sal, who after coming out on the premise that Asma wanted to hang out with her is now being walked out on.

  5. Maybe next time Asma.

  6. Is this some DoA version of the anime vanishing eyes thing?

    1. Sal’s rolling her eyes.

    2. well, yo ucan still see one of her eyes in the last panel

    3. hahaha
      I want to try and put some full eyes on Sal in this page. It will be an interesting result

  7. I guess the joke is how much Sal doesn’t care about her brother?

    1. She cares but she’s putting on a front because that’s how Sal operates.

    2. Eh I if this is the best we can get, I’ll take it.

    3. I think she’s broadly unsympathetic to his obviously doomed rebound ending, and to his relationship woes in general.

      That doesn’t mean she doesn’t care about him, but her empathy for his troubles is less than total.

      1. Walky’s love life recently has been especially ridiculous from Sal’s perspective. I really don’t get where the expectation she should care so much about it comes from. He’s had 3 girlfriends in a week.

        1. And has recently had confirmation on her phone that her prediction of how long it would take him to have another was technically wrong but broadly correct.

    4. It’s a little over a week from when Walky introduced Lucy to his parents as his girlfriend. Then introduced Amber as his girlfiend, in his ‘shenanigans’ to wreck dinner with their parents (and Danny) to somehow get them to approve of Lucy. Whom he was misleading and she rightly dumped him. Then doomed rebound with Dorothy. Not even doomed because of Joyce. The writing came pre-written on the wall.

    5. It seems so… Sal’s lack of interest is going to backfire on him sooner or later.

    6. I guess so. I’m glad that my sister and I care much more about each other than Sal seems to care about her brother.

    7. i wonder how much she’d adjust her opinion of his current state if she found out that amber slept over in his room

  8. Wonder who Danny is mad at more: his ex-girlfriend that gave bisexuals a bad name by cheating, or someone he barely talks to who broke his best friend’s heart (and I guess also gave bisexuals a bad name by cheating).

    1. I would assume Dorothy? Both because he like actually knows her, but also because he expects better from her.

      He doesn’t really know Joyce that well, and I don’t think he has high expectations of the girl who can’t be bothered to learn his name after months of being in the same social circles.

      1. They’re in the same social circle like I’m in the same social circle as my state politicians. Like, it’s one degree of Kevin Bacon separation but that’s a pretty wide degree, I don’t think they’ve spoken to each other more than twice lol. She knows a lotta people who know Danny and Danny knows a lotta people who know Joyce, but they’ve never sat at a table together.

        1. ? He’s her (ex?) boyfriend’s best friend, current girlfriend’s ex-boyfriend, and current boyfriend of her friend Sal. They’re in the same circles.

        2. Do you attend your state politicians parties? Are they dating your best friend? Are literally all your closest friends also their friends?

        3. They don’t hang out.

          I don’t think he’s ever eaten lunch with the majority of the friend group or walked to class with the math group.

          Danny’s gone to Joyce’s parties, but that’s more or less the extent of their personal interactions.

          His relationship with Joyce is basically as Sal’s plus 1, because when he and Joe hangout, they don’t do so with the friend group.

          Lucy is a much bigger part of the friend group, and that’s saying something considering that up until the last couple weeks, she was only there cuz of Walky.

          If Joyce were the sun and the friend group was the planets, Danny would be Pluto: in orbit around her, but not very close, and, arguably, not a real planet/friend.

      2. Himself, becuase Dorothy actual got laid and he was queerbaiting character thats thinks BI means making stupid puns

    2. SHOT THROUGH THE HEART
      AND YOU’RE TO BLAME
      YOU GIVE BIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSS
      A BAD NAAAAAMEEEE

  9. “Who?”
    “She means Walkie. ”
    “Oh… Who?”

  10. the…the eyes on the last panel

    1. I had the same reaction. They look too high on her head.

      1. Is she tilting her head back so she can look down her nose?

      2. I strongly see it as rolling her eyes.

  11. https://www.dumbingofage.com/comic-tag/dorothy/?tags=dorothy,joyce
    Hey, the tags work again! More or less. But it’s also more obvious that you can search multiple tags? How did you do it? When I update my own site I want to do the same (except maybe replacing the buttons with character icons…), so I’m interested in how you got it working. And if it’s possible to give each button a unique class for CSS reasons.

    1. Unfortunately, I think that “,” does “OR”, while “+” used to do “AND”.

  12. Sorry. What did Joyce & Dorothy do to Danny?

    1. huh that’s nice, but… it sure would help if there weren’t a full list of the tags, several pages’ height worth, at the top before the search results

    2. He’s angry that they’re (unintentionally) perpetuating the stereotype that bisexuals are cheaters.

    3. Well what he should be pissed about is that Joyce cheated on his best friend and Dorothy assisted her in doing so, explicitly disregarding the advice he had given her not to do, uh, exactly that.
      __
      But in the strip itself he just said he was mad at them for enforcing negative bisexual stereotypes. So.

    4. Nothing, so I’m not sure why Danny being pissed at them matters at all lol. Walky yes, Danny no

      1. Now the thing is, she doesn’t actually know that Walky is superpissed at them, she just sumrises it because it seems reasonable.

        1. She, herself, is not irritated at them and was willing to come and hang out and bowl.

  13. Why, does Walky think they’re being biphobic too?

    1. Walky was one of the two who were cheated on, Joyce made it a point to rub his face in it, and Dorothy let her do it. I wouldn’t be a fan either.

  14. so they are capable of shame

    1. i mean it’s joyce, most of her life once she realized her religious community was shitty ended up being shame, no?

  15. I’ve really come around to Asma, she’s as fed up with Joyce and Dorothy as I am! Maybe Willis is a more credible writer than I gave them credit for.

    1. Eh? They haven’t done anything to her.

    2. well, tbf in this case they didn’t do anything wrong inviting asma she just didn’t realize that they didn’t know she was talking about alice

      imagine if she runs into alice on the way out/alice shows up in her own bowling party/hangout

  16. I realize Sal’s rolling her eyes in Panel 5, but I swear it looks like Willis’s hand slipped and poor Sal went Picasso.

  17. Y’know, lacking full context, Asma walking out as soon as Sal shows up could almost be taken as mildly racist..
    Or, at best, just comes off as she really hates being around Sal in particular.

    1. It was an extreme reaction, which is fitting since Sal is the most extreme.

    2. Good thing there’s all this context, then.

    3. i don’t think sal rly cares at this point/barely knows asma so idk if she’d be offended

  18. Finally. Some fallout.

  19. Asma’s specific reaction is interesting.

    I wonder if she’s thinking that this is like a consequence of her knowingly using people she doesn’t really know or like just to get close to another person. Having it fail just made her realize that the whole set up is actually be skeevy or whatever?

    Anyway, I can’t say I expected Sal to bother bringing this up. Even with Danny being one of the most important people in her life and thus she values his feelings, why would she need to warn Joyce and Dorothy?

    1. Nothing about this was skeevy. Except Joyce and Dorothy fingering each other in the hallway, but that strip was deleted before it was drawn, so it’s unfair of you to count it.

    2. i mean ‘using’ is a bit heavy, even tho she did ask to invite alice indirectly it’s not as if she was pressuring them/they invited her as opposed to her maybe like talking to the front desk person at the other dorms to try to get alice’s personal information or so

  20. Asma’s behavior in the first panel seems pretty reasonable to me. Also I’m glad that Sal told Doyce about how Danny feels about them cheating, and that she finally remembered how her brother Walky was harmed by these two. I hope this is the start of Joyce and Dorothy facing some real consequences among their friend group for the bad behavior lately.

  21. Dannys just jealous …because he exists to be queerbaiting character, BI in name only,
    and the Author gets to lampshade that, by putting strawmam Puriteen paladin comments in his mouth instead of an actual cock.

    Bait character is Bait.
    Quick I ‘ll make everyone love the Goodship Doyce , by scapegoating the previous shipbait character , the one that chronically drives relationships away with bad opinions

    1. What are you on and may I have some?

    2. Queerbaiting is when the bisexual character enters into a relationship with a partner of the opposite gender. Bisexual people are only bi if they’re dating a same gendered partner and anything less is queerbaiting. Got it!

    3. This made me laugh quite a lot so thank you for that.

    4. Are you stupid, or a troll?

      Guess it could be both.

    5. brother, you are using the word queerbaiting, but I do not think you know what it means. Signed, a bi man

  22. I’m sure asma is more angry at herself than she is at the two of them fwiw

  23. https:// http://www.dumbingofage.com/comic/centered/ the sequence here is, IMO relevant to how Asma is reacting, if you accept my thesis that Asma is conflicted about engineering a situation where she will make out with Alice. Sal appearing instead now gives her an out she has immediately seized on.

  24. What the odds of them inviting BIllie, ergo Alice by association, and Asma running into them on the way out?

  25. I feel like I’ve lost track of whatever plot-thread Asma’s got going here – can someone remind me why she’s upset right now? Is it just that Dorothy and Joyce are going through the motions of White Girls’ First Protest or is Sal specifically relevant too?

    1. Reading the card explains the card.

    2. Asma has the hots for Alice, so Asma only came bowling with Dorothy/Joyce because Asma thought Alice was going to be there too. Dorothy/Joyce misunderstood and invited a completely different “boots and leather jacket” friend, who turned out to be Sal. Asma isn’t interested in Sal, and she’s upset at not getting to hang out with Alice.

  26. You can’t convince me Joyce is reacting to news about danny. That’s her trying to connect the name ‘Danny’ to ‘Hat Guy’.

    As for Asma- ah sweetie. I hope she gets to run into Alice soon.

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