Nothing’s worse than preparing to face the consequences of your actions only to be met with someone being the bigger person.
Though, I guess Becky’s reaction makes sense – Joyce falling in love with a girl isn’t anyone’s fault. Walky and Joe are the ones with the most reason to be mad.
Shepsquared
Don’t be silly. These characters are all too mature to get irrationally angry over things that affect their lives.
JC
Earth shattering. Marvin was always trying to blow up the Earth. :)
deliverything
@JC
Yes, and Dorothy was expecting Becky to try to blow up the DoJo relationship. Kabooms may shatter many things; it’s sometimes a wonder we don’t encounter more of them.
clif
JC, I’m pretty sure that Jeffepp said what he meant.
No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There’s always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody’s got to have some damn perspective around here! Boom. Sooner or later. BOOM! [/Ivanova]
GingerMadman
“Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova’s recommendations. Ivanova is God”
Needfuldoer
The truck’s gonna hit that pole in the next camera angle jump cut!
Slartibeast Button, BIA
In Room 306 of the Third Floor of Clark Wing of Read Hall on the Indiana University Campus Today … Nothing Happened.
I repeat, in Room 306 of the Third Floor of Clark Wing of Read Hall on the Indiana University Campus Today … Nothing Happened.
(Sorry, don’t know what the right room numbers are.)
Leadsynth
An official map of the dorm rooms would be a cool poster.
Sarah Lea
This is my favorite thread.
Unexpected B5.
.
The best sci Fi ever on television (confessed as a diehard Trekkie/Trekker/whatever).
i do love how dorothy’s instinctive need to blame herself for everything just, totally ignores that becky has object permanence? like, becky bore witness to the extreme 180 her mental health made on Saturday (15-4) where she started the day as an insomniac cryptid at midnight and ended seeming noticably better off! obviously she can put two and two together now that she knows you made out with joyce between those data points, and obviously she’ll prefer you kissing joyce over you being potentially suicidal!
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i love how silly dorpy is when she’s like this, it’s like crack for me
Genuinely i think Dorothy forgets that her own happiness could like. Matter? To other people? Even other people she’s done bad by??? Especially if she feels bad.
And rn she has massive blinders because…. well. She also loves joyce.
She used to have a complex relating to the sort of person she thought she had to be to become president. She needed a new complex to replace it, I suppose.
I’ll take this at face value and chalk it up to a martyr complex because if Dorothy actually wanted someone to be in her face or blame her for anything, there’s several people on campus for that.
Yeah, this is hopefully (which I say as a reader looking for drama and chaos!) a sign that her pre-getting with Joyce breakdown is coming back in full force and finally reasserting itself.
Obviously Becky is not reacting well to this. It got so bad that it might have broken up her otherwise happy relationship. Dorothy feels guilty about it, and wants Becky to be mad at her.
You say that but I fully believe Joyce sleeping with Joe and not telling Dorothy is still on the table
Taffy
I wouldn’t put it past Joyce to try and fuck Joe while Dorothy’s still in the room, at this point. While they’re at it, they can tape a camera to Dorothy’s head and record themselves. Joe’s already done that once, anyway.
NGPZ
wait he did that for reals?
sauce?
3oranges
The filming part, yeah. The taping a camera to Dorothy not so much.
SaffronComic
Joyce literally already cheated on Dorothy by going to break up with Joe and giving him oral sex instead.
I feel like Joyce offering to have consolation prize sex with an absolutely baffled Becky is very much on the table.
Edit: Being able to edit comments is so nice :)
Lys
To be fair, while Joyce did call it cheating on both of them, Dorothy disagreed and countered that Joyce can’t cheat on her until Joe clocks out and she clocks in. Which fits with Dorothy’s tendency to want everything to be in neat little boxes.
clif
I’m not sure that replacing Danny’s foot with Dorothy’s head is a non-trivial change.
Freemage
NGPZ, they’re talking about the sex-tape Joe and Roz made in the first days on campus. For some reason, they taped the camera to the sleeping Danny’s foot (and apparently it’s visible in the shots).
People who know them know that Danny is Joe’s roommate. Positioning makes it pretty clear that’s Danny, even if it’s just his sock, so it’s reasonable for third parties to assume that Danny was in some way involved in the making of the tape.
It’s this last element that soured me on Roz from the earliest days in the strip. Do what you want, that’s fine. But involving someone else, even tangentially, without their consent? Yeah, that’s a big, “Go to Hell and fuck yourself, you narcissistic little fuckwit,” from me. Every time she comes on and drops some sort of truth-bomb about sex and sexuality, it just rankles.
“Joyce cheats on Dorothy” is on a lot of bingo cards, including mine. I place it after some of the shine wears off though. Joyce adored Dorothy, and Dorothy had little time or attention for Joyce. Dorothy “moving into Joyce’s asshole and moving the furniture around” is going to irritate her enough that she’s going to need some space to vent some time and whoops these things just happen.
Obviously, Becky is going for “not mad, just disappointed” because she knows that disappointment will hurt Dorothy more. This is because post-timeskip Becky is secretly Mike After Taking a Plummet Against the Tarmac.
Expecting people to fold their laundry is a form of oppression.
deliverything
On a somewhat related (and possibly more serious) note: making your bed makes it a more comfortable habitat for dust mites. Apparently, you should wait at least 30 minutes — https://www.realsimple.com/why-you-should-not-make-bed-right-away-11735400 — but I avoid doing it entirely.
Just to be safe, obviously.
actually I would be genuinly a little amused if Walky tried to put on a brave face and be mature about it all only for Dot to immediately spiral on why people aren’t more mad at her
Well. Becky’s capable of knowing this ain’t your fault, and it wouldn’t fix anything. But also admittedly I think the sheer weight of Shit Beckys Been Through kind of straw-camel-back’d her clean into just one HECK of a depression, which can present as muted emotional responses!
…but tbh I think even if Becky wasn’t. I don’t think she’d be mad AT Dorothy. I think thats part of what’s hurting her so bad, and probably tangled up in the crisis of faith. No human DID this TO her. Nobody chose to love this person and not that. Hell. I personally believe not being romantically attracted to Becky probably kept Joyce in the closet- if I didn’t fall for HER, then OBVIOUSLY.
It’s just sad. And it sucks. And it’s nobody’s fault. Unless you were raised to believe that no matter how bad things went, someone’s looking out for you somewhere.
For once I agree with Dorothy, but not just about Becky. Why aren’t more characters in their friend group angry and upset with both Joyce and Dorothy for their shitty behavior lately? I feel like that would make more sense than how we’ve seen most characters in their friend group react to the bad behavior of Doyce in this storyline so far. I feel like we haven’t had nearly enough conflict and drama from this.
Yeah if any of my friends cheated on somebody in my friend group I’d be pissed at them. Don’t care how happy they are together, there was a correct order to handle their relationship shit in, and they went with the bad one that hurts people more instead. That’s not okay. Only person who had an appropriate reaction is Sarah, and she has to play softball with this shit because having a roommate means sometimes you don’t get to be properly angry.
Careful with that kind of talk. Around here you’re supposed to worship Dorothy and Joyce hooking up because true love lesbians or something.
eh, whatever
No. You’re supposed to read the comic instead of speculating a year ahead.
Taffy
Who’s calling for worship, Miroku? Name names or you’re making it up.
Big Z
@eh, whatever: Meh, my college friend group would have been isolating these cheating dorks off to the periphery already. Like, no one would have been waiting for them to go to class together, etc. There’s been plenty of time for appropriate reaction that generally hasn’t materialized.
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Astariel
It’s a good question. If I were Dorothy, I’d be bracing for the explosion every time I was around Becky and wondering why it wasn’t happening.
Nono
“Where’s the kaboom?”
jeffepp
The ship shattering kaboom!?
mads_in_zero
Nothing’s worse than preparing to face the consequences of your actions only to be met with someone being the bigger person.
Though, I guess Becky’s reaction makes sense – Joyce falling in love with a girl isn’t anyone’s fault. Walky and Joe are the ones with the most reason to be mad.
Shepsquared
Don’t be silly. These characters are all too mature to get irrationally angry over things that affect their lives.
JC
Earth shattering. Marvin was always trying to blow up the Earth. :)
deliverything
@JC
Yes, and Dorothy was expecting Becky to try to blow up the DoJo relationship. Kabooms may shatter many things; it’s sometimes a wonder we don’t encounter more of them.
clif
JC, I’m pretty sure that Jeffepp said what he meant.
Cholma
No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There’s always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody’s got to have some damn perspective around here! Boom. Sooner or later. BOOM! [/Ivanova]
GingerMadman
“Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova’s recommendations. Ivanova is God”
Needfuldoer
The truck’s gonna hit that pole in the next camera angle jump cut!
Slartibeast Button, BIA
In Room 306 of the Third Floor of Clark Wing of Read Hall on the Indiana University Campus Today … Nothing Happened.
I repeat, in Room 306 of the Third Floor of Clark Wing of Read Hall on the Indiana University Campus Today … Nothing Happened.
(Sorry, don’t know what the right room numbers are.)
Leadsynth
An official map of the dorm rooms would be a cool poster.
Sarah Lea
This is my favorite thread.
Unexpected B5.
.
The best sci Fi ever on television (confessed as a diehard Trekkie/Trekker/whatever).
Furie
Becky already knew it. Long before Dorothy did. Likely before she had words that would explain what it was she knew.
M!a
Hey. New comic came up quick. Nice work.
QueenofSodor
i do love how dorothy’s instinctive need to blame herself for everything just, totally ignores that becky has object permanence? like, becky bore witness to the extreme 180 her mental health made on Saturday (15-4) where she started the day as an insomniac cryptid at midnight and ended seeming noticably better off! obviously she can put two and two together now that she knows you made out with joyce between those data points, and obviously she’ll prefer you kissing joyce over you being potentially suicidal!
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i love how silly dorpy is when she’s like this, it’s like crack for me
Yumi
Also, wanting to mack on Joyce is one of the most relatable feelings in the world for Becky.
QueenofSodor
right? they have so much in common! they should have hatesex about it
apocryphascribe
Now we’re talking!
Zamperla
Genuinely i think Dorothy forgets that her own happiness could like. Matter? To other people? Even other people she’s done bad by??? Especially if she feels bad.
And rn she has massive blinders because…. well. She also loves joyce.
EpochFlame
dotty is going to have a complex over this
Amara
Wdym going to, she’s BEEN having a complex about it ever since their first make out session ended.
deliverything
She used to have a complex relating to the sort of person she thought she had to be to become president. She needed a new complex to replace it, I suppose.
clif
It’s complex.
Steamweed
“I feel guilty. Shouldn’t you scream at me or hit me or something?”
“You know it’s not all about you, yeah?”
Bryy
Irony since Becky is making this all about her.
Dot
Don’t worry Dorothy, the commentariat is happy to pick up the slack.
clif
Truth.
StClair
meh. like Becky(?), I find myself increasingly just not caring anymore.
Elf grrl
Honestly I’m enjoying watching Dotty squirm over the lack of anger from Becky. She can’t deal with Becky showcasing some level-headedness
Isalis
Really not sure how either of them *should* be feeling right now. The whole situation is a mess.
IntangibleMatter
Becky isn’t mad, just disappointed. And mostly in herself, at that, for fumbling Dina.
Rabid Rabbit
“Because payback’s sweet, and you spent months pissing me off by not reacting to me.”
Rectilinear Propagation
Oh, it would be so funny if she said that.
Jay
Because it’s not your fault Joyce is a twit and Becky can’t get over herself and Becky recognizes that Dorothy
DiDi
Ah… there it is.
I was waiting for Dorothy to implode. This should be amusing.
Grimey
I’ll take this at face value and chalk it up to a martyr complex because if Dorothy actually wanted someone to be in her face or blame her for anything, there’s several people on campus for that.
apocryphascribe
Yeah, this is hopefully (which I say as a reader looking for drama and chaos!) a sign that her pre-getting with Joyce breakdown is coming back in full force and finally reasserting itself.
Bash
Obviously Becky is not reacting well to this. It got so bad that it might have broken up her otherwise happy relationship. Dorothy feels guilty about it, and wants Becky to be mad at her.
darkoneko
“I’m used to it”
Pappenheimer
So you could tell if Dorothy breaks into your room because your laundry is folded
Taffy
“Becky, would it help your mood if we had sex? There’s a 50/50 chance Joyce is already boning Dina right now anyway.”
NGPZ
of all things, i do not have Joyce and/or Dorothy cheating on each *other* on my bingo card, hmmm
Fail Earnhardt
You say that but I fully believe Joyce sleeping with Joe and not telling Dorothy is still on the table
Taffy
I wouldn’t put it past Joyce to try and fuck Joe while Dorothy’s still in the room, at this point. While they’re at it, they can tape a camera to Dorothy’s head and record themselves. Joe’s already done that once, anyway.
NGPZ
wait he did that for reals?
sauce?
3oranges
The filming part, yeah. The taping a camera to Dorothy not so much.
SaffronComic
Joyce literally already cheated on Dorothy by going to break up with Joe and giving him oral sex instead.
I feel like Joyce offering to have consolation prize sex with an absolutely baffled Becky is very much on the table.
Edit: Being able to edit comments is so nice :)
Lys
To be fair, while Joyce did call it cheating on both of them, Dorothy disagreed and countered that Joyce can’t cheat on her until Joe clocks out and she clocks in. Which fits with Dorothy’s tendency to want everything to be in neat little boxes.
clif
I’m not sure that replacing Danny’s foot with Dorothy’s head is a non-trivial change.
Freemage
NGPZ, they’re talking about the sex-tape Joe and Roz made in the first days on campus. For some reason, they taped the camera to the sleeping Danny’s foot (and apparently it’s visible in the shots).
People who know them know that Danny is Joe’s roommate. Positioning makes it pretty clear that’s Danny, even if it’s just his sock, so it’s reasonable for third parties to assume that Danny was in some way involved in the making of the tape.
It’s this last element that soured me on Roz from the earliest days in the strip. Do what you want, that’s fine. But involving someone else, even tangentially, without their consent? Yeah, that’s a big, “Go to Hell and fuck yourself, you narcissistic little fuckwit,” from me. Every time she comes on and drops some sort of truth-bomb about sex and sexuality, it just rankles.
HueSatLight
“Joyce cheats on Dorothy” is on a lot of bingo cards, including mine. I place it after some of the shine wears off though. Joyce adored Dorothy, and Dorothy had little time or attention for Joyce. Dorothy “moving into Joyce’s asshole and moving the furniture around” is going to irritate her enough that she’s going to need some space to vent some time and whoops these things just happen.
Morrison
Because you haven’t taken your jacket off yet, Dorothy.
RassilonTDavros
Obviously, Becky is going for “not mad, just disappointed” because she knows that disappointment will hurt Dorothy more. This is because post-timeskip Becky is secretly Mike After Taking a Plummet Against the Tarmac.
clif
So that was the reason for the haircut.
Foxtastic
Are the floor-clothes clean? does Becky have a clean floor-laundry pile?
NGPZ
she has a system :p
Armadillo
That’s the only laundry pile I have. My dirty laundry is kept in sorted hampers. My cleans pile up because I just can’t be bothered to fold shit.
Taffy
Expecting people to fold their laundry is a form of oppression.
deliverything
On a somewhat related (and possibly more serious) note: making your bed makes it a more comfortable habitat for dust mites. Apparently, you should wait at least 30 minutes — https://www.realsimple.com/why-you-should-not-make-bed-right-away-11735400 — but I avoid doing it entirely.
Just to be safe, obviously.
anon
i mean some of the clothes on the floor are prolly from teh cops snooping around as opposed to already from apile
Bill Erak
Cuz it’s not your fault silly. She’s probably angrier at joyce if she’s angry at one of you.
Fail Earnhardt
Now imagine if Walky is hostile to Dorothy later and she’s completely flabbergasted by it
YourCousinJay
actually I would be genuinly a little amused if Walky tried to put on a brave face and be mature about it all only for Dot to immediately spiral on why people aren’t more mad at her
apocryphascribe
That would be an interesting and very welcome change of pace for both of them!
Zamperla
Well. Becky’s capable of knowing this ain’t your fault, and it wouldn’t fix anything. But also admittedly I think the sheer weight of Shit Beckys Been Through kind of straw-camel-back’d her clean into just one HECK of a depression, which can present as muted emotional responses!
…but tbh I think even if Becky wasn’t. I don’t think she’d be mad AT Dorothy. I think thats part of what’s hurting her so bad, and probably tangled up in the crisis of faith. No human DID this TO her. Nobody chose to love this person and not that. Hell. I personally believe not being romantically attracted to Becky probably kept Joyce in the closet- if I didn’t fall for HER, then OBVIOUSLY.
It’s just sad. And it sucks. And it’s nobody’s fault. Unless you were raised to believe that no matter how bad things went, someone’s looking out for you somewhere.
Kyulen
For once I agree with Dorothy, but not just about Becky. Why aren’t more characters in their friend group angry and upset with both Joyce and Dorothy for their shitty behavior lately? I feel like that would make more sense than how we’ve seen most characters in their friend group react to the bad behavior of Doyce in this storyline so far. I feel like we haven’t had nearly enough conflict and drama from this.
Armadillo
Yeah if any of my friends cheated on somebody in my friend group I’d be pissed at them. Don’t care how happy they are together, there was a correct order to handle their relationship shit in, and they went with the bad one that hurts people more instead. That’s not okay. Only person who had an appropriate reaction is Sarah, and she has to play softball with this shit because having a roommate means sometimes you don’t get to be properly angry.
Miroku2235
Careful with that kind of talk. Around here you’re supposed to worship Dorothy and Joyce hooking up because true love lesbians or something.
eh, whatever
No. You’re supposed to read the comic instead of speculating a year ahead.
Taffy
Who’s calling for worship, Miroku? Name names or you’re making it up.
Big Z
@eh, whatever: Meh, my college friend group would have been isolating these cheating dorks off to the periphery already. Like, no one would have been waiting for them to go to class together, etc. There’s been plenty of time for appropriate reaction that generally hasn’t materialized.