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Self-inflicted


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  1. It’s a good question. If I were Dorothy, I’d be bracing for the explosion every time I was around Becky and wondering why it wasn’t happening.

    1. “Where’s the kaboom?”

      1. The ship shattering kaboom!?

        1. Nothing’s worse than preparing to face the consequences of your actions only to be met with someone being the bigger person.
          Though, I guess Becky’s reaction makes sense – Joyce falling in love with a girl isn’t anyone’s fault. Walky and Joe are the ones with the most reason to be mad.

        2. Don’t be silly. These characters are all too mature to get irrationally angry over things that affect their lives.

        3. Earth shattering. Marvin was always trying to blow up the Earth. :)

        4. @JC
          Yes, and Dorothy was expecting Becky to try to blow up the DoJo relationship. Kabooms may shatter many things; it’s sometimes a wonder we don’t encounter more of them.

        5. JC, I’m pretty sure that Jeffepp said what he meant.

      2. No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There’s always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody’s got to have some damn perspective around here! Boom. Sooner or later. BOOM! [/Ivanova]

        1. “Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova’s recommendations. Ivanova is God”

        2. The truck’s gonna hit that pole in the next camera angle jump cut!

        3. Slartibeast Button, BIA

          In Room 306 of the Third Floor of Clark Wing of Read Hall on the Indiana University Campus Today … Nothing Happened.

          I repeat, in Room 306 of the Third Floor of Clark Wing of Read Hall on the Indiana University Campus Today … Nothing Happened.

          (Sorry, don’t know what the right room numbers are.)

        4. An official map of the dorm rooms would be a cool poster.

        5. This is my favorite thread.
          Unexpected B5.
          .

          The best sci Fi ever on television (confessed as a diehard Trekkie/Trekker/whatever).

    2. Becky already knew it. Long before Dorothy did. Likely before she had words that would explain what it was she knew.

  2. Hey. New comic came up quick. Nice work.

  3. i do love how dorothy’s instinctive need to blame herself for everything just, totally ignores that becky has object permanence? like, becky bore witness to the extreme 180 her mental health made on Saturday (15-4) where she started the day as an insomniac cryptid at midnight and ended seeming noticably better off! obviously she can put two and two together now that she knows you made out with joyce between those data points, and obviously she’ll prefer you kissing joyce over you being potentially suicidal!

    i love how silly dorpy is when she’s like this, it’s like crack for me

    1. Also, wanting to mack on Joyce is one of the most relatable feelings in the world for Becky.

      1. right? they have so much in common! they should have hatesex about it

        1. apocryphascribe

          Now we’re talking!

    2. Genuinely i think Dorothy forgets that her own happiness could like. Matter? To other people? Even other people she’s done bad by??? Especially if she feels bad.

      And rn she has massive blinders because…. well. She also loves joyce.

  4. dotty is going to have a complex over this

    1. Wdym going to, she’s BEEN having a complex about it ever since their first make out session ended.

      1. She used to have a complex relating to the sort of person she thought she had to be to become president. She needed a new complex to replace it, I suppose.

        1. It’s complex.

  5. “I feel guilty. Shouldn’t you scream at me or hit me or something?”
    “You know it’s not all about you, yeah?”

    1. Irony since Becky is making this all about her.

  6. Don’t worry Dorothy, the commentariat is happy to pick up the slack.

    1. meh. like Becky(?), I find myself increasingly just not caring anymore.

    2. Honestly I’m enjoying watching Dotty squirm over the lack of anger from Becky. She can’t deal with Becky showcasing some level-headedness

  7. Really not sure how either of them *should* be feeling right now. The whole situation is a mess.

  8. Becky isn’t mad, just disappointed. And mostly in herself, at that, for fumbling Dina.

  9. “Because payback’s sweet, and you spent months pissing me off by not reacting to me.”

    1. Oh, it would be so funny if she said that.

  10. Because it’s not your fault Joyce is a twit and Becky can’t get over herself and Becky recognizes that Dorothy

  11. Ah… there it is.

    I was waiting for Dorothy to implode. This should be amusing.

  12. I’ll take this at face value and chalk it up to a martyr complex because if Dorothy actually wanted someone to be in her face or blame her for anything, there’s several people on campus for that.

    1. Yeah, this is hopefully (which I say as a reader looking for drama and chaos!) a sign that her pre-getting with Joyce breakdown is coming back in full force and finally reasserting itself.

    2. Obviously Becky is not reacting well to this. It got so bad that it might have broken up her otherwise happy relationship. Dorothy feels guilty about it, and wants Becky to be mad at her.

  13. “I’m used to it”

  14. So you could tell if Dorothy breaks into your room because your laundry is folded

  15. “Becky, would it help your mood if we had sex? There’s a 50/50 chance Joyce is already boning Dina right now anyway.”

    1. of all things, i do not have Joyce and/or Dorothy cheating on each *other* on my bingo card, hmmm

      1. You say that but I fully believe Joyce sleeping with Joe and not telling Dorothy is still on the table

        1. I wouldn’t put it past Joyce to try and fuck Joe while Dorothy’s still in the room, at this point. While they’re at it, they can tape a camera to Dorothy’s head and record themselves. Joe’s already done that once, anyway.

        2. wait he did that for reals?

          sauce?

        3. The filming part, yeah. The taping a camera to Dorothy not so much.

        4. Joyce literally already cheated on Dorothy by going to break up with Joe and giving him oral sex instead.

          I feel like Joyce offering to have consolation prize sex with an absolutely baffled Becky is very much on the table.

          Edit: Being able to edit comments is so nice :)

        5. To be fair, while Joyce did call it cheating on both of them, Dorothy disagreed and countered that Joyce can’t cheat on her until Joe clocks out and she clocks in. Which fits with Dorothy’s tendency to want everything to be in neat little boxes.

        6. I’m not sure that replacing Danny’s foot with Dorothy’s head is a non-trivial change.

        7. NGPZ, they’re talking about the sex-tape Joe and Roz made in the first days on campus. For some reason, they taped the camera to the sleeping Danny’s foot (and apparently it’s visible in the shots).
          People who know them know that Danny is Joe’s roommate. Positioning makes it pretty clear that’s Danny, even if it’s just his sock, so it’s reasonable for third parties to assume that Danny was in some way involved in the making of the tape.
          It’s this last element that soured me on Roz from the earliest days in the strip. Do what you want, that’s fine. But involving someone else, even tangentially, without their consent? Yeah, that’s a big, “Go to Hell and fuck yourself, you narcissistic little fuckwit,” from me. Every time she comes on and drops some sort of truth-bomb about sex and sexuality, it just rankles.

      2. “Joyce cheats on Dorothy” is on a lot of bingo cards, including mine. I place it after some of the shine wears off though. Joyce adored Dorothy, and Dorothy had little time or attention for Joyce. Dorothy “moving into Joyce’s asshole and moving the furniture around” is going to irritate her enough that she’s going to need some space to vent some time and whoops these things just happen.

  16. Because you haven’t taken your jacket off yet, Dorothy.

  17. Obviously, Becky is going for “not mad, just disappointed” because she knows that disappointment will hurt Dorothy more. This is because post-timeskip Becky is secretly Mike After Taking a Plummet Against the Tarmac.

    1. So that was the reason for the haircut.

  18. Are the floor-clothes clean? does Becky have a clean floor-laundry pile?

    1. That’s the only laundry pile I have. My dirty laundry is kept in sorted hampers. My cleans pile up because I just can’t be bothered to fold shit.

      1. Expecting people to fold their laundry is a form of oppression.

        1. On a somewhat related (and possibly more serious) note: making your bed makes it a more comfortable habitat for dust mites. Apparently, you should wait at least 30 minutes — https://www.realsimple.com/why-you-should-not-make-bed-right-away-11735400 — but I avoid doing it entirely.
          Just to be safe, obviously.

    2. i mean some of the clothes on the floor are prolly from teh cops snooping around as opposed to already from apile

  19. Cuz it’s not your fault silly. She’s probably angrier at joyce if she’s angry at one of you.

  20. Now imagine if Walky is hostile to Dorothy later and she’s completely flabbergasted by it

    1. actually I would be genuinly a little amused if Walky tried to put on a brave face and be mature about it all only for Dot to immediately spiral on why people aren’t more mad at her

    2. That would be an interesting and very welcome change of pace for both of them!

  21. Well. Becky’s capable of knowing this ain’t your fault, and it wouldn’t fix anything. But also admittedly I think the sheer weight of Shit Beckys Been Through kind of straw-camel-back’d her clean into just one HECK of a depression, which can present as muted emotional responses!

    …but tbh I think even if Becky wasn’t. I don’t think she’d be mad AT Dorothy. I think thats part of what’s hurting her so bad, and probably tangled up in the crisis of faith. No human DID this TO her. Nobody chose to love this person and not that. Hell. I personally believe not being romantically attracted to Becky probably kept Joyce in the closet- if I didn’t fall for HER, then OBVIOUSLY.

    It’s just sad. And it sucks. And it’s nobody’s fault. Unless you were raised to believe that no matter how bad things went, someone’s looking out for you somewhere.

  22. For once I agree with Dorothy, but not just about Becky. Why aren’t more characters in their friend group angry and upset with both Joyce and Dorothy for their shitty behavior lately? I feel like that would make more sense than how we’ve seen most characters in their friend group react to the bad behavior of Doyce in this storyline so far. I feel like we haven’t had nearly enough conflict and drama from this.

    1. Yeah if any of my friends cheated on somebody in my friend group I’d be pissed at them. Don’t care how happy they are together, there was a correct order to handle their relationship shit in, and they went with the bad one that hurts people more instead. That’s not okay. Only person who had an appropriate reaction is Sarah, and she has to play softball with this shit because having a roommate means sometimes you don’t get to be properly angry.

      1. Careful with that kind of talk. Around here you’re supposed to worship Dorothy and Joyce hooking up because true love lesbians or something.

        1. No. You’re supposed to read the comic instead of speculating a year ahead.

        2. Who’s calling for worship, Miroku? Name names or you’re making it up.

        3. @eh, whatever: Meh, my college friend group would have been isolating these cheating dorks off to the periphery already. Like, no one would have been waiting for them to go to class together, etc. There’s been plenty of time for appropriate reaction that generally hasn’t materialized.

        4. I’m sorry you had such a self righteous friend group.

        5. @clif: Personally I don’t see how you get “self-righteous” out of “oh, hey, those idiots cheated on their partners, probably not a great idea to trust them all that much, in general I prefer to be on Team Victim of Cheating”, as opposed to “common sense”.

          Every time I’ve tried to stay acquaintances with someone who’s a known cheater, they have ALWAYS ended up breaking other trusts. Same as any other kind of liar or backstabber — at some point, maybe you give them a chance to redeem themselves or improve, but you’d be a fool to just ignore the information that they’re the kind of people who do that.

        6. @clif everything else aside (including the fact that I strongly disagree that it’s self righteous to stop being friends with someone for doing something you think is shitty)- have you met a 20 year old??? The only people more self righteous than college students just now figuring out their strongly held values are like. Gossipy church people. EVERY college freshman is self righteous, idk why people are confused by that concept

        7. I feel the argument about cheating can be offset by the concept of repression and comphet.
          I think most of the cast can agree cheating is shitty and some have already called Doyce out for it.
          ­­
          They can also understand the concept of nuance and know Joyce has always been the most repressed girl to ever exist and Dorothy is honestly no better in many regards.
          ­
          And, you know, they didn’t spend weeks/months knowingly cheating on their partners without telling them.

        8. I’d’ve been more willing to credit the whole “repression” argument right up to Joyce’s blanket hookup with Joe. That was the moment it lost moral force for me — if you break through repression, and you KNOW beyond the shadow of a doubt that your friend group is full of queers and allies (which they both do), you just come clean instead of noodling around it long enough to hook up with your soon-to-be-ex.

          (I am still not sure I credit “comphet” at all, but that’s largely due to it feeling like bi erasure — Joyce is pretty clearly attracted to men AND women.)

          The time argument is just irrelevant — a lie is a lie and a cheat is a cheat, regardless of how long it takes the victim to discover it. (besides, the blanket hookup also makes it “you kept cheating instead of coming clean immediately”)

      2. Pretty sure most of the group doesn’t know about any cheating part.
        .
        For all they’re aware (Joe, Sarah, and maybe Walky/Amber excepted), Joyce and Dorothy did things the “right” way and broke up with their boyfriends first.
        .
        I’m still not sure if Walky knows about the newspaper kiss or that anything preceded his getting dumped by Do–Joyce.

        1. Yep. And also the cheating was relatively minor in the grand scheme of things. Not good. But Joe and Joyce dated for about a week (were Walky and Dorothy together any longer than that?), Joyce and Dorothy realized they liked each other (thanks to Joe’s own intervention) and then kissed maybe 12 hours after that in a moment of stress and passion, then they told their respective partners maybe 12 hours after *that*.

          It’s a shitty, awkward situation for this friend group but no one is really an asshole beyond Joyce needing to make time to have a real conversation with Joe that isn’t interrupted by her dad showing up on campus or her trying to get in front of that newspaper photo or their classes or bailing Leslie out of jail or the cops raiding their dorm or her best friend breaking up with the person Joyce thinks she’s supposed to marry.

          I remember relationships imploding in college all the time and friend groups changing. I think this would be awkward and the group would splinter but imo outside of the two actual wronged parties people wouldn’t necessarily drop Joyce and Dorothy.

          Especially this group that has gone through a lot of major traumatic events together and literally saved each other’s lives on multiple ocassions.

      3. Oh but they are “young!” They “deserve to be messy!” They were “overcome by passion in the heat of the moment!”

        And besides “there was no formal monogamy contract.” Walky and Joe “should have known what to expect”. Don’t forget “it’s not cheating if they become a polycule!” And “kissing doesn’t count” apparently.

        And what could be more important than sapphic love! Just because they are actively hurting other people by not breaking up first, doesn’t mean it isn’t CUTE!!! After all they had a spiritual wedding at a genocide protest.

    2. Willis has proven me wrong before with story beats that end up happening way later, but yeah, its my biggest gripe that besides Sarah, no one has called them out for this, not even the people they were cheating on.

      Everyone else who has anything negative to say on the matter is more talking about how they were front page of the paper of the protest which detracts from it (and arguably that was less their fault and more the fault of Daisy putting them on the front page to begin with)

      Im hoping more people and especially Walky will call out how shitty it was, especially since Joyce was actually GLOATING to him that she stole his girlfriend. I know it was a haha played for laughs thing but thats still a shitty thing to do.

      1. Pretty sure most of the group doesn’t know about any cheating part.
        .
        For all they’re aware (Joe, Sarah, and maybe Walky/Amber excepted), Joyce and Dorothy did things the “right” way and broke up with their boyfriends first.
        .
        I’m still not sure if Walky knows about the newspaper kiss or that anything preceded his getting dumped by Do–Joyce.
        .
        Joe and Sarah (the two friends that we know *know* about the cheating) have both called out Joyce (though Joe was a slower and more patient burn). But as someone else mentioned, Sarah’s got a roommate situation to deal with (and busy getting busy with Tony and figuring out how to be a girlfriend). And Joe’s waiting to hear back on a possible poly situation with Joe. Sitting about her cheating to ask their friends is probably not likely to support his preferred outcome of the options still remaining to him. It rationally supports his current goals and aims (both the hopeful poly, and his obvious and guiding goals to become a better, bigger person, regardless of girls).

    3. wasn’t sarah upset? or at least disappointed even if she wasnt confrontational about it/too distracted with her relationship with tony to get more involved

      1. Sarah was upset because she is starting to like Joe as a person (but don’t tell her that.) It would be extremely easy to see her reacting the same way even if there was no cheating involved, because she herself was emotionally invested in Joyce and Joe’s relationship, so my argument is that the cheating is functionally irrelevant there as well. She would have been just as mad if they had a clean break, because it’s Joe on the other end of it regardless.

        1. Personally disagree on this read.
          .
          Sarah explicitly asks if they’ve broken up with their boyfriends yet (implicitly falling out the cheating.)
          .
          I agree she’d be disappointed either way

          I disagree she’d have been equally upset. I doubt she was expecting Joyce to just marry Joe, after all. The vast majority of college relationships end. That part is just…human. Sarah seems pretty grounded on such a thing

  23. Perhaps, Dorothy getting an excuse to clean the whole place up?

    :P

  24. Because Becky isn’t a kindergartner upset that someone else is playing with “her” toys after recess, and realizes that you have literally done nothing wrong to her, Dorothy? Because she’s a fucking adult?

    1. Acting like actual fully grown adults don’t frequently get furious about irrational things.

    2. Did.. You forget her initial reaction to this entire thing?

      Given that I thinks its a pretty fair question to ask.

    3. well, even if becky logically/in her head understands why, doesn’t mean she wouldn’t feel anger even if she doesn’t scream at dorothy over it

  25. I think Dorothy may be the worst politician in the world.

    1. I wish I could believe that, but unfortunately I hear the news sometimes.

    2. I would love to live in the world where this is true. Alas.

  26. Is it possible someone will actually have a real, mature conversation about this whole thing? That sounds like something from some other comic.

  27. Dorothy the only person you did wrong by is Walky. Maybe Joe, but I’m personally of the opinion that cheaters should be held accountable only for the person they specifically are cheating on, so that one’s on Joyce for me.

    The rest of it? Nothing to do with you. You’re completely irrelevant to it. The only thing you’re doing that they have cause to be upset about is acting like you’re responsible, because that’s some self-centered martyr complex bullshit.

    1. Emotions don’t work that way. You can hurt someone without doing anything morally wrong, and they’re not going to react rationally.

      1. not to even mention your friends could be dissapointed and upset with you for how you conduct yourself.

        like if a friend of mine turned out to have cheated on their partner without any remorse for what they did, I’d probably not want to be their friend afterwards anymore

        1. The only person who actually called them out for the actual cheating part was Sarah too. Walky
          and Joe barely seem to care which is… Weird right?

        2. @morningstar odn’t think it’s too weird for walky b/c i don’t think he expected things to last/ stay serious w/ dorothy and was like “well i had a feeling this would happen eventually” even tho he was mostly joking about joyce girl crushing on dorothy

        3. he was mostly joking about joyce girl crushing on dorothy
           
          He wasn’t joking at all. He was expressing it as a joke because that felt safer.

  28. I suspect Leslie is doing better now that she’s had a chance to be a mom to Becky and offer emotional support. And I suspect Becky is projecting her own guilt for “burdening” someone else with her emotional baggage, already regretting opening up to Leslie because she’s convinced Leslie is the worse for it.

    1. Except Leslie’s now worried about Becky when she didn’t have any reason to be before, so that’s just Becky making things worse for everyone because she’s the problem.

      1. You are describing g Becky’s perspective just fine, but I would disagree with that characterization of what is actually happening.

  29. I feel like both Dorothy and Joyce, to some extent, are doing Becky a bit of disservice. Yes, she is hurt, but she is very aware that neither of them did something to her, it is not Joyce or Dotty’s fault that Joyce does not see Becky in that light, and it is not their fault that she does see Dorothy that way. It sucks for Becky, it hurts, but she is mature enough to know that it is not their fault.

    And I think Becky also gets that, while the way they told her was not ideal… it was just them being uncomfortable with the situation all around, so she does not really hold that against them. She is just hurt right now, without really being angry at either of them.

    1. I dunno, her initial reaction was kind of 100% what they expected.

      Which is to say, not great. The fact of the matter is, Becky should not have been the person they were most worried about, since she was in a committed relationship and overall who Joyce fucks or doesnt isnt really her concern in this sense, because she really didn’t care when she was with men, but the fact that her reaction was what they were the momst and justifiably worried about i dont think theyre doing her a disservice.

      Regardless if she kknows that she shouldnt be, or that its silly, it doesnt change the fact that she acted like joyce cheated on HER, even tho they were never a thing.

      1. Welcome to human beings.

    2. joyce did go to talk to dina tho idk how becky would feel if “i encouraged dina to give you another chance!” or so

  30. Fingers crossed this is how Becky realises she is 100% more devastated over the possibility of losing Dina than Joyce, and like Joe said she absolutely does not prefer Joyce whether she said so or not

    (I personally don’t think she did and was surprised that Dina made that assumption based on inference, but then everyone’s emotions are running super fucking high and Joe is hogging the cast’s emotional intelligence.)

    1. Oh hey my bald Becky image finally shows up

    2. Yeah notice how when she talks about what’s going on with her post the initial big feelings reaction and fallout with Dina, it’s always “I fucked things up real bad with my girlfriend”. The DoJo stuff seems secondary to her at this point

  31. “Because we’re all grown ass adults who can make up our own fucking minds about who to fuck, Joyce included.”
    .
    “Because I was in a committed relationship so you shouldn’t have needed to be worried about hurting my feelings to begin with. In fact, the fact that you worried so much about how I would take it should’ve been a hint to you that my relationship with Dina actually wasn’t as solid as you thought.
    .
    “Because nothing that I did was your fault; I made my own choices, and it’s kind of silly to think that you have any guilt here.”
    .
    “Because there’s really only two people who *legitimately* should feel angry with you over what you did recently, and neither of them seem even mildly perturbed, and so the need to make yourself *feel* guilty has caused you to overcompensate to people only marginally connected to your actions, like me and Asma, so that when we eventually sit you down and tell you that you’re being insane to feel guilty, you can feel absolved of any wrongdoing while simultaneously not learning a thing about the one thing that deep down inside you actually feel bad for.”
    .
    Honestly, take your pick. I can keep going if you like.

    1. Side note the fact that Joe went “Yeah its fine, polyamory maybe? If not its cool” and Walky just kinda went. “Welp that sucks.” without any real.. Firing back or anything. I know he justiofies it by the fact they were only together again for what was it.. Three days? Even so its kinda weird how well they both took it, and is probably my biggest gripe with this entire storyline, as the two people actually effected by their cheating dont even really care that much.

      1. They’re acting like they just got broken up with, and to be fair to them (and everyone in the audience who has been saying the same thing for nearly a year now, much as I wish they were wrong), it was functionally indistinguishable from being broken up with. If there was any part of this storyline that could be safely retconned out of the comic, the cheating would be it. Very, very little would have to change to get to the point in today’s strip, which is how you know it’s completely perfunctory. It’s easily my biggest small criticism of this current storyline.

      2. Walky is not and has not been taking it well at all.

        1. Yet he takes it badly in a way that affects barely anyone else and the comic doesn’t focus on him for long, in favour of other characters who just don’t care. It’s the least dramatic way for him to handle it, and near indistinguishable from if Dorothy had dumped him before Joyce decided to be obnoxious.

        2. Okay? and? Just because he’s not like, hulking out and tearing off Dorothy and Joyce’s heads doesn’t mean it’s a bad writing decision.

    2. I’m gonna go with a “Why? It’s not your fault. Joyce is attracted to you, not me. So the fault is mine for not being good enough.” self-loathing angle.

      1. “I’m the problem. It’s me.”

  32. Becky: “Because you’ve never been fast with me.”
    Grabs Dorothy’s shoulder, looks very stern
    Becky: “Remember, Dots. Nothing is stronger than family.”

    1. You’ve never been fast with me?

      1. I think it’s a The Fast & The Furious reference.

  33. testttttt idk if my comments will show my profile picture still ider how i signed up to show a profile picture

    1. oh ok i figured it out, though my name isnt being saved idk why

      1. As far as I can tell, the only thing the “Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.” checkbox actually saves is whether you’ve clicked the checkbox.
        Besides, why does it even mention website when there’s no longer a website field?

  34. are you effin serious dotty. you think becky isn’t furious. what more of a performance of anger do you want godddd

    1. You think you need no evidence at all that she’s furious, you can just assume it?
       
      If you do that IRL, you’re in for a few nasty surprises.

  35. It may be the time dilation, but I didn’t think Becky would make such a rookie mistake as hanging onto her misery. I’m sure she will immediately realize her error, swallow her shame,/sadness, say “Sorry, I fucked up”, and be friends again.

    So … some time in March?

  36. Somehow Joyce and Dorothy are at opposite ends of the spectrum in how they’re handling the fallout of their cheating and yet equally obnoxious for it.

    1. “If no one else is going to be appropriately dramatic about this, WE just have to pick up the slack.”

  37. Dorothy and not making everything about her challenge.
    Difficulty: *Impossible*

  38. Becky’s gonna get an A in self-awareness this semester.

    Dorothy … is gonna demonstrate leadership, I guess.

  39. Well Dorothy it’s because Becky is doing exactly what she’s done this entire comic, been a traumatized teenager who has to stuff any negative feelings down or be swallowed in them. This time instead of filling it with positivity she’s just blatantly saying the self loathing out loud.

    And unfortunately you as a teenager in a messy relationship with her best friend are probably not the one to “fix” this, even if you think doing so would absolve you of any guilt you feel.

    Unfortunately, given that this is not Smarting of Age,

  40. Okay Dorothy, after the campus police incident you learned that sometimes you make everything about you and it causes things to blow up into worse catastrophes that you spend the rest of your time cleaning up. Now, you’re going to have to carefully navigate this social situation with your good friend and new girlfriend so you don’t do that again.

    Okay, ready? here we go. We’re going to do something reasonable and calm and excuse yourself and keep busy with something else while you let people grieve. Three….two… one…..

  41. Because you didn’t do anything wrong, dotty.

  42. Becky is being healthy about this in the most unhealthy way possible.

  43. So, of course, dotty and Joyce cheating on their boyfriends should not keep getting brought up as a reason why they deserve consequences from Becky MacIntyre, I know this is understood as I see it mentioned on almost every comic featuring two or more of these three, but it does seem that the bitterness over their boyfriends being depressed rather than wounded and vengeful keeps circling around to anger at dotty and Joyce for their selfish or self-indulgent treatment of Becky regardless.

    I will say I have recently reconsidered where the paladin/drama sicko/burn the witches commenters are coming from, I’m not sure Willis has ever cheated or been cheated on, meanwhile I’ve seen cheating between several real life people and there has always been anger and hurt at the betrayal, neither of which we’re seeing in Joe and Walky. I will say I could still see the anger and hurt manifest in Joe eventually, when I was cheated on I had a High degree of Cope and Mend/Befriend in the first few days as keeping the relationship was more important to me initially than addressing the hurt done to me. Then I became vindictive and wanting to punish the cheating ex at every turn for a year or two after.

    Though, when our positions were reversed and I left him for someone else I’d fallen for while we were together, he persisted for two months to try to convince me to come back even though I felt I’d made it quite clear that, while I was sad and guilty that our relationship had imploded, that the whole reason I left him for someone else was because I knew I hadn’t been happy with him since he had cheated on me, and ultimately knew it was something I couldn’t forgive as he’d never taken ownership of doing so and had not given me reason to trust him again after that. But he had done the Cope for months, before eventually vacillating between vindictiveness and surface level friendliness himself.

    1. Even still, it must be noted that in a comic of this pace and how absolutely ugly and stressful jealousy and vindictive expressions of hurt are, it makes complete sense narratively why Joe and Walky seem more depressed than angry.

  44. Oh dear. Back to a number of comments about wrongdoing and the “necessity” for some kind of punishment. Monogamy normalised. The C word. If you want to look for cheating, what about Joyce cheating on Dorothy with Joe? After the pink teargas wedding, no less!

    1. You are literally the only person on this thread who has used the word “necessity”. (unless someone misspelled it, I suppose)

  45. I like the colours, the contrast with the previous blue/dark strip with Amber and Walky. The natural colours of the wall and Dorothy’s clothes and hair, the rather bright and in-your-face colours of Becky’s. The reassessment of relationships between people. Dorothy holding a white shirt, like a white flag. The light on Becky’s and Dorothy’s hair.

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