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type of girl who enjoys both indigo girls and assorted hyperpop (it’s me i’m the girl) (i got my indigo girls listening from my moms and my hyperpop listening from my friends) (two very different kinds of gay music (both good))
Someone’s going to have to explain the concept to her first. She gets gay, she maybe gets bi but I doubt she gets the concept of being biromantic but not bisexual.
oooo yeah I wonder how explaining the split attraction model to her would go. Or who would do it. (Dorothy would want to be the one to do it because Dorothy, but who would actually introduce Joyce to the concept?)
I do think Joyce could also be bisexual, for what it’s worth. Sexualities change and evolve. I didn’t realize I could be attracted to men until my mid-twenties.
I once saw a faggot hanging out on a curb. It was autumn. The leaves had turned. Lawns were cut. All alone, one bundle of sticks. Tied neatly with a small canvas strap. It was… artisanal. It made me happy. In that beautiful moment, looking at a faggot made me very gay.
Yup. It’s all just shorthand, because its a whole lot easier to say “I’m straight” than “I’m not into men or have any interest in dating men and am entirely comfortable with my state as a cis man, but I have played games as a female character getting it on with both male and female characters, and I’m not entirely sure where that puts me on a Kinsey chart but either way I’m not into you dude”.
“I’m totally straight! OK, I do give one or two hand jobs a day. Every day. Since I was 12. But it’s not gay because it was my penis I was caressing with passion and love.”
I had a dream last night that Willis had drawn a pinup of Joyce so I hurriedly sketched it down this morning. https://imgur.com/a/kJWuZYa (Suggestive)
Also someone requested Joyce and Jennifer so I doodled that too.
This brings up an interesting philosophical question I want to posit to the commenters.
If you cloned yourself and had sex with them would it be gay or masturbation? (If you’ve seen Tonkatsu Sinclair you already know my answer.)
Ah, the classic question of clone fucking! Choose or add your own:
☐ I don’t want to fuck my clone because that would be gay sex and I’m not gay.
☐ I’m not gay, but I would actually totally fuck my clone.
☐ I’m gay, but I still don’t want to fuck my clone, that’s gross and weird.
☐ I don’t want to fuck my clone because my self-loathing is THAT strong.
☐ I’d totally fuck my clone because I want to know if I’m good in bed.
☐ I’d fuck my clone because who would know better how to fuck ME than ME?
☐ I’d totally do all sort of weird things to my clone I’d be embarrassed to ask someone else to do.
☐ To be honest, fucking my clone has always been my fantasy.
☐ It’s basically the same as masturbating, right? So no big deal.
☐ It’s not the same as masturbating; it’d be like having sex with your twin. Wrong and bad!
☐ I would not have sex with my clone because what if my clone is evil.
☐ Not only would I have sex with my clone, I’d probably make a bunch of clones and just get it on with all of them at once because that’s how pro clone-fucking I am.
I mean, there is a very miniscule chance of offspring if you’re doing your twin. Well, identical at least. Fraternal, you’re probably kinda screwed there.
How about “I might be open to fucking my clone, I’m not sure right now, but I damn well know I’d be too damn awkward about it all to get anything going”?
☐ I have to immediately kill my clone because I know it will immediately try to kill and replace me, because that’s what I would do in its position. No sex, necrophilia is gross and weird.
In my case I’m one of The Straights and wouldn’t be interested in a person who looked like me, but it does occur to me; what if I *was* gay, but just wasn’t into masc dudes?
I’d have some interest in fucking my clone in that I’d like to get more comfortable in working with our shared equipment, except I know that neither of us would be super into being touched that way, so then what? Need to clone swap with a friend or something.
I mean its a fully sentient being that just happens to share all your DNA. Its like having sex with your identical twin. Therefore, it is not masturbation, but incest … and also very gay.
You ever seen the robot chicken parody of clone wars they made about this topic using the actual Star Wars the Clone Wars VA?
I think it’s only masturbation if you and the clone are still sharing a mind. If you two have effectively become two different beings, then it’s gay and sorta incest.
It takes a minimum of eighteen years and nine months to produce a clone old enough to have sex with, and in eighteen years and nine months, I’ll be too old to have sex with an eighteen-year-old even if it is technically legal at that point. (Ignoring possible incest issues.) So it’s really a moot question as far as I’m concerned.
If we’re talking scifi scenarios, rather than an actual clone, how about just a simulated clone in a futuristic hyper realistic VR game?
And my answer is, sure i’ll fuck my clone, that sounds like a good time, but honestly i’m more excited to just have conversations. I talk to myself constantly as it is, so it would be nice for myself to reply.
This is perfect and we better not cut away any time soon. I need at least a week of this conversation where Joyce and Sarah fully unpack “Dorothy walked into my room and said ‘I’m going to teach you to masturbate’.”
I think Sarah’s reaction here is more her thinking that Joyce and Dorothy had sex (or at least masturbated together) since Joyce hasn’t told her the specifics of how this demonstration went down
It was such a level of intimacy that it’s strange that there was no sex. In order to beat that, Joyce has to hold Dorothys hand during her first time with Joe
Considering how often that we’re told that Joyce is supposed to be autobiographical, I’m continually wondering if Mr. Willis himself had a bisexual awakening from some dude on campus or if this is all just fun in story.
I haven’t checked the other comments yet, but I suppose the Dorothy/Joyce shippers are reading something into this perfectly normal conversation as well?
If Sarah wants Joyce to not be freaking out over normal things, then perhaps she should stop being so fucking hypocritical and having the largest of freakouts over normal things, like she fucking did yesterday, and she stop meddling in Joyce’s business like she’s still doing today.
Oh my god I despise Sarah so much. What the fucking shit was Sarah’s business whether Joyce had masturbated or not? Has this asshole even ever heard of the fucking concept of fucking PRIVACY?
Joyce I don’t know how to break this to you, but that was gayer than Becky and you know it. Not that it is a bad thing, except Dorothy might be heterosexual or heteroromantic; if that is the case then you’ll have to settle for Joe.
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Sarah: This escalated quickly
Kept getting better.
Joyc: “It was a small load. We did it by hand-holding.”
Sarah: Where did you learn that joke?”
Joyce: “…joke?”
Sarah is surprisingly genre aware in that last sentence.
“We listened to music so it would be more like we were just hanging out. Totally not gay!”
“Melissa Etheridge and the Indigo Girls?”
“Yes! How did you know?”
I legit laughed at this. +1 internets for you.
Amazing. My internets as well.
type of girl who enjoys both indigo girls and assorted hyperpop (it’s me i’m the girl) (i got my indigo girls listening from my moms and my hyperpop listening from my friends) (two very different kinds of gay music (both good))
“Also this one Bikini Kill song?”
But you are acknowledging it was in fact gay. Another brave step to me.
Agreed. At this rate Joyce might admit she’s biromantic within the next decade!
Which would only be a month or so for her!
Warms my little gay heart! 🥰
Someone’s going to have to explain the concept to her first. She gets gay, she maybe gets bi but I doubt she gets the concept of being biromantic but not bisexual.
oooo yeah I wonder how explaining the split attraction model to her would go. Or who would do it. (Dorothy would want to be the one to do it because Dorothy, but who would actually introduce Joyce to the concept?)
Leslie! In the 200-level gender studies course.
I do think Joyce could also be bisexual, for what it’s worth. Sexualities change and evolve. I didn’t realize I could be attracted to men until my mid-twenties.
Dumbing of Age Book 13: It Wasn’t As Gay As It Sounds
alternatively:
Dumbing of Age Book 13: What
Dumbing of Age Book 13: Like Some Kind Of Normal Person
I mean it was the gayest thing I’d ever seen. And I’ve seen lesbian sex.
i’m sure becky would take that as a challenge
Becky vows to be twice as gay.
This will require two Dina’s. Luckily, a mosquito was recently found preserved in amber…
(No not preserved in Amber, that would be weird).
To be fair, Amber is Dina’s roommate. It would make sense that Dina’s DNA would be on her person.
“Bruce’s DNA was easy enough to obtain, he left it all over town. … Not remotely what I meant.”
Was there enough Dina in there? Or are they going to have to fill in the missing bits with … *searches for cast name starting with F* … nevermind.
“uh uh uh you didn’t say the magic word”
I accidentally enrolled in paleontology school twice, now I’m… Two Dinas
I once saw a faggot hanging out on a curb. It was autumn. The leaves had turned. Lawns were cut. All alone, one bundle of sticks. Tied neatly with a small canvas strap. It was… artisanal. It made me happy. In that beautiful moment, looking at a faggot made me very gay.
That’s the other definition of faggot. The non-gendered one.
Have we ever seen the whites of Sarah’s eyes disappear before? I feel like she’s usually too unflappable for her eyes to vanish
I don’t think so. It reminds me of this funny comic though:
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/see
I know we have, I just can’t remember when. I’ll probably do some archive digging in a bit.
Ah, found one: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/03-see-you-in-the-funny-page/prettier/
When Mike recorded Walky Crying
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/04-of-mike-and-men/recording/
Man I miss Mike
totally platonic straight girl moments lol
Just like when it was her and Becky.
Just gals being pals
It was still kinda gay, though plenty of straight people have done “kinda gay” things while still being straight.
I just have my doubts Joyce is one of them.
Straight people can do gay things. Gay people can do straight things. There’s like a BILLION things in the world to do, some of them are gonna be gay.
It’s almost like gay and straight are just arbitrary ways of describing the infinite variables that make the human experience.
Yup. It’s all just shorthand, because its a whole lot easier to say “I’m straight” than “I’m not into men or have any interest in dating men and am entirely comfortable with my state as a cis man, but I have played games as a female character getting it on with both male and female characters, and I’m not entirely sure where that puts me on a Kinsey chart but either way I’m not into you dude”.
I mean, just count the syllables.
…Are you me?
My gender is whatever makes the (inter)action gay, personally.
Just over 8 billion things, right about now. And about half gay.
“I’m totally straight! OK, I do give one or two hand jobs a day. Every day. Since I was 12. But it’s not gay because it was my penis I was caressing with passion and love.”
Love this muchly.
I had a dream last night that Willis had drawn a pinup of Joyce so I hurriedly sketched it down this morning.
https://imgur.com/a/kJWuZYa (Suggestive)
Also someone requested Joyce and Jennifer so I doodled that too.
I do like the vibe you draw Joyce with. Very coquettish.
🥰🥰🥰
Hey I dreamed of a Joyce pinup quite some time back too.
A Joyce slipshine banner, actually.
Anyone here have any similar dreams?
All masturbation is homosexual.
wait is that a thing earthlings actually believe
Only for fun
There are some weirdos out there who seem to actually think like that.
I mean, of course it’s gay. You’re touching the genitals of someone of the same sex as you. How much gayer can it get?
Not if my RealDoll is straight, it’s not.
Only for narcissists.
Ah, but what if a trans person masturbates?
There are many different ways of thinking about one’s own genitals, and not all ways are dysphoric.
And not all masturbation involves genitals.
Anyway, you’re sexing up a person of your own gender.
If you’re a transwoman, for example, then you’re sexing up a transwoman. If you’re nonbinary, you’re sexing up a nonbinary person.
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This brings up an interesting philosophical question I want to posit to the commenters.
If you cloned yourself and had sex with them would it be gay or masturbation?
(If you’ve seen Tonkatsu Sinclair you already know my answer.)Why not both?
Wuv this answer 🥰
Ah, the classic question of clone fucking! Choose or add your own:
☐ I don’t want to fuck my clone because that would be gay sex and I’m not gay.
☐ I’m not gay, but I would actually totally fuck my clone.
☐ I’m gay, but I still don’t want to fuck my clone, that’s gross and weird.
☐ I don’t want to fuck my clone because my self-loathing is THAT strong.
☐ I’d totally fuck my clone because I want to know if I’m good in bed.
☐ I’d fuck my clone because who would know better how to fuck ME than ME?
☐ I’d totally do all sort of weird things to my clone I’d be embarrassed to ask someone else to do.
☐ To be honest, fucking my clone has always been my fantasy.
☐ It’s basically the same as masturbating, right? So no big deal.
☐ It’s not the same as masturbating; it’d be like having sex with your twin. Wrong and bad!
☐ I would not have sex with my clone because what if my clone is evil.
☐ Not only would I have sex with my clone, I’d probably make a bunch of clones and just get it on with all of them at once because that’s how pro clone-fucking I am.
There’ve got to be some twins who rationalized getting it on with “It’s no worse than having sex with your clone.”
I mean, there is a very miniscule chance of offspring if you’re doing your twin. Well, identical at least. Fraternal, you’re probably kinda screwed there.
You forgot the other choice, my choice:
☐ I’m gay but I wouldn’t fuck my clone because I’m honestly not sure if I could make myself orgasm, and it would just be awkward for the both of us
They left out several other perfectly reasonable responses, including the following (among others):
☐ I’m straight, but I wouldn’t fuck my clone because that’s gross and weird.
☐ I’m gay and I wouldn’t fuck my own clone, but I want to fuck clones of other people (possibly more than one clone of them).
☐ I’m straight and I wouldn’t fuck my own clone, but I want to fuck clones of other people (possibly more than one clone of them).
How about “I might be open to fucking my clone, I’m not sure right now, but I damn well know I’d be too damn awkward about it all to get anything going”?
Same, we’d probably just end up playing video games together or talking or something.
☐ I have to immediately kill my clone because I know it will immediately try to kill and replace me, because that’s what I would do in its position. No sex, necrophilia is gross and weird.
I would be the king of fucking my clone. I would have my own clone bone throne.
In my case I’m one of The Straights and wouldn’t be interested in a person who looked like me, but it does occur to me; what if I *was* gay, but just wasn’t into masc dudes?
I’d have some interest in fucking my clone in that I’d like to get more comfortable in working with our shared equipment, except I know that neither of us would be super into being touched that way, so then what? Need to clone swap with a friend or something.
Missed one option: YES
My orientation isn’t compatible and even if it were, I don’t like my body. “Self-loathing” it is, then.
Neither. The term of art is “selfcest”.
I mean its a fully sentient being that just happens to share all your DNA. Its like having sex with your identical twin. Therefore, it is not masturbation, but incest … and also very gay.
You ever seen the robot chicken parody of clone wars they made about this topic using the actual Star Wars the Clone Wars VA?
For you it’s straight. But for the clone: hella, hella Gay.
Better make the clone gay, or forget it
Depends. Are your memories copied into the clone? If so, masturbation. If not, gay.
Depends
if I have “twins” Connection with clone – masturbation
If just human identical to me gay
I think it’s only masturbation if you and the clone are still sharing a mind. If you two have effectively become two different beings, then it’s gay and sorta incest.
Incest
It takes a minimum of eighteen years and nine months to produce a clone old enough to have sex with, and in eighteen years and nine months, I’ll be too old to have sex with an eighteen-year-old even if it is technically legal at that point. (Ignoring possible incest issues.) So it’s really a moot question as far as I’m concerned.
If we’re talking scifi scenarios, rather than an actual clone, how about just a simulated clone in a futuristic hyper realistic VR game?
And my answer is, sure i’ll fuck my clone, that sounds like a good time, but honestly i’m more excited to just have conversations. I talk to myself constantly as it is, so it would be nice for myself to reply.
bro I love Sarah
yeah that was my reaction when it happened, Sarah
It certainly wasn’t as gay as Joyce was hoping for.
Maybe so, though she did still eject Dorothy from the room when it came time to finish.
It really honestly could not be.
This is perfect and we better not cut away any time soon. I need at least a week of this conversation where Joyce and Sarah fully unpack “Dorothy walked into my room and said ‘I’m going to teach you to masturbate’.”
yes, please
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Making it sound like she took a lot of steps
Some amazing eye journeys happening here.
Sarah’s faces join Joyce’s faces in the glorious crop of reactions from this arc, lmao, I love them
I’m glad the comic touch the topic that was at least weird
I think Sarah’s reaction here is more her thinking that Joyce and Dorothy had sex (or at least masturbated together) since Joyce hasn’t told her the specifics of how this demonstration went down
It was such a level of intimacy that it’s strange that there was no sex. In order to beat that, Joyce has to hold Dorothys hand during her first time with Joe
Every time Joyce tried to clarify, she just made it worse.
She really is flustered again.
To be FAIR, they DID masturbate together. Dotty just let Joyce finish off by herself.
Honestly, I’m a little surprised she’s so surprised.
This fuckin arc, man
…I mean, if it wasn’t as gay as it sounds, that implies it was still at least somewhat gay.
What are the SI standard units for gayness intensity?
Scovilles.
Lumities.
Turings.
Millisapphos
Angles? As in deviations from a straight line?
Complex numbers, certainly.
Degrees Kinsey.
It was still a decent amount of gay.
Considering how often that we’re told that Joyce is supposed to be autobiographical, I’m continually wondering if Mr. Willis himself had a bisexual awakening from some dude on campus or if this is all just fun in story.
Putting the Bi in the AutoBIography
Just two bros making balloon animals into the wee hours of the night, holding hands.
Did involve the laundry room though
As a nonbinary person, it is entirely possible to be into women in a gay way and a straight way.
Also, Willis’ pronouns on Twitter are he/they.
So, there’s a couple more possible options for a bisexual awakening than “some dude” there, but go have fun speculating!
what
“No no no, Sarah, it was just so I wouldn’t fuck Joe! That’s not very gay at all!”
“…Joyce, it remains gay as hell even if I understand it and will support it with my bat.”
everything was worth it for this strip don’t @ me
tru sarah is the goat
“And then we burned insence”
“What”
“And listened to sapphic indie pop ballads”
“What”
“On a bed of roses”
“What?”
“I said we did it on Rose’s bed. Have you met Rose? She’s like if Amber and Ruth had a baby together.”
So she’s trying to get a kiss from a Rose?
Just Sarah’s eyes…. lol
lmao yeah it sounds worse than what actually happened
-Well, at least it wasn’t Joe, eh?
-Hahaha yeah, not like I’d have enjoyed that or anything
Pheww, just thought Sarah would freaked out, since her questioning Joyce yesterday
Maybe Sarah forgot that by grabbing the bull, the horns come with it. Yet there’s still a very crucial aspect that prevents it from going sapphic.
“Fellas, is it —” Still YES though!
ohohoh, just clicked.
Becky will soon hear it out for certain now.
Becky is going to flip! :O
I haven’t checked the other comments yet, but I suppose the Dorothy/Joyce shippers are reading something into this perfectly normal conversation as well?
“Gals being laundry pals” is a great sentence.
But they were five feet apart, so it wasn’t gay. At least that’s what we’ve learned from the hot tub incident.
If Sarah wants Joyce to not be freaking out over normal things, then perhaps she should stop being so fucking hypocritical and having the largest of freakouts over normal things, like she fucking did yesterday, and she stop meddling in Joyce’s business like she’s still doing today.
Oh my god I despise Sarah so much. What the fucking shit was Sarah’s business whether Joyce had masturbated or not? Has this asshole even ever heard of the fucking concept of fucking PRIVACY?
Sarah’s always been an asshole. This is entirely within character for her, people only like her because she isn’t actively malicious. Same with Mike.
“she isn’t actively malicious”
Except that one time she launched the Joyce torpedo at the S.S. Jaidah.
She absolutely is an arsehole. She’s a somewhat likeable, relatable arsehole, but arsehole nevertheless.
Calm down Raidah.
What is gayer?
1) being gay
2) what Joyce and Dorothy have got going
(I’m literally a lesbian and I’m leaning towards 2. Also, BECKY CAN NEVER KNOW)
This is Dumbing of Age. Of COURSE she’s gonna eventually know. That’s when the real explosion is gonna come.
Well now that all this anxiety has come back she’s going to have to go do more laundry
I still wonder when someone is going to let Joyce know that everyone thinks she’s bi. Probably not Sarah, because she’s Sarah.
Joyce I don’t know how to break this to you, but that was gayer than Becky and you know it. Not that it is a bad thing, except Dorothy might be heterosexual or heteroromantic; if that is the case then you’ll have to settle for Joe.