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May 12, 2026

Weirdest

by David M Willis on August 20, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Everybody's Looking for Nothing
└ Tags: joyce, sarah

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    August 20, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    “Just joshin’! There’s only this red herring here”

    • Gee
      Gee
      August 20, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      “Is that why the room smells like fish?”

      • clif
        clif
        August 20, 2023 at 1:11 am | #

        Mmm.

      • TheCozburger
        TheCozburger
        August 20, 2023 at 4:05 am | #

        “You know, I never thought about it, but you might be onto something…”

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 20, 2023 at 9:23 am | #

      Does Joe know Joyce is seeing Red Herring? Did he read about it in the National Exaggerator?

      • vlademir1
        vlademir1
        August 20, 2023 at 8:34 pm | #

        Wow… just wow. I get the reference and still…

  2. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    August 20, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Shared dream world?!?!?!

    YEEEAH!!!!! 😍🎮

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      August 20, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      An x-box controller? So you have chosen sides in the Great Console War?

      PS.
      I was sorry to read that you have not been sleeping well and such. I hope things improve.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        August 20, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

        Awe thanks 🥲

        Also, shared dreams make for epic DoA game material 🌈🌙

      • jflb96
        jflb96
        August 20, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        Joysticks are next to each other, that’s a PlayStation controller

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          August 20, 2023 at 9:24 am | #

          Whatever it is, I though we learned our lesson about steering ships with video game controllers.

        • Casi
          Casi
          August 20, 2023 at 11:46 am | #

          on my screen it’s clearly an xbox controller. the dpad is on the same level as the right stick, and the overall shape is the Xbox shape, including the color layout of the face buttons

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      August 20, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

      I mean it sounds like Dorothy had an early morning freakout and actually came into check on her.

      • Jo_cubstar
        Jo_cubstar
        August 20, 2023 at 2:39 am | #

        That’s how I’m interpreting it too

  3. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    August 20, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book 14: Dumbing of Age Has Dreams That Are Totally Gay

  4. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    August 20, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    *plays “Break My Stride” on the hacked Muzak*

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      August 20, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      Not “A Horse With No Name”?

      • clif
        clif
        August 20, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

        But it has the name Horse. With tags and everything.

  5. Quietlythundering
    Quietlythundering
    August 20, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    PTSD? Nah, just totally unrelated horse dreams

  6. Jude Deluca
    Jude Deluca
    August 20, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Dorothy: And I’m on a horse.

    • jeffepp
      jeffepp
      August 20, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

      Now I’m in a canoe, wearing a bucket hat.

      • Puppeteer Nessus
        Puppeteer Nessus
        August 20, 2023 at 3:13 pm | #

        I am a dryer, horse-mimicking, dream-vibrating

    • TheCozburger
      TheCozburger
      August 20, 2023 at 4:08 am | #

      “With the man your man could smell like!”

      • Rectilinear Propagation
        Rectilinear Propagation
        August 20, 2023 at 9:37 pm | #

        “Swan dive!”

  7. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 20, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Ladies, is it gay to dream about your best friend while that friend also had a really gay dream about you?

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      August 20, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

      I mean… it’d make me happy, but to each their own.

      • Heavensrun
        Heavensrun
        August 20, 2023 at 2:27 pm | #

        Goddammit I flagged this by accident. Why does this keep happening to me? Like, my brain just…expects the reply link to be on the right for some reason, and I don’t know why. It feels like a kind off mental disorder at this point.

        (sigh) Anyway, I was going to say appropriate gravitar is appropriate.

        • Rectilinear Propagation
          Rectilinear Propagation
          August 20, 2023 at 9:38 pm | #

          The reply link was on the right before the ability to flag was added because it was the only thing there.

          • Heavensrun
            Heavensrun
            August 21, 2023 at 7:48 pm | #

            Well, that doesn’t make me feel *much* better, but I do appreciate it anyway. ;p

        • Wizard
          Wizard
          August 21, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

          I think I’ve only done it once here but I do it frequently on another site I frequent. The flag and reply buttons aren’t right next to each other but the comments are typically overrun with spambots. I’m so used to flagging them that I sometimes forget there are other ways to respond to comments.

    • shoopdawhoop
      shoopdawhoop
      August 21, 2023 at 8:21 pm | #

      IDK but apparently it’s gay to dream about being on a horse together

  8. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    August 20, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Amazing, I love everything about this.

    Also, kind of a sign of Joyce’s growth in a way that she used to be pretty hesitant to be in any state of undress in front of the others, but she’s gone to t-shirt and panties as jammies instead of shorts like in the past. Not like she *has* to show skin any more than anyone else, just this is something she would not have done in the past.

    • jeffepp
      jeffepp
      August 20, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

      Easier access, you know, just in case she has Dorothy dreams.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 20, 2023 at 4:02 am | #

      Good to know somebody is acknowledged that. And Joyce didn’t repent to get no pants from the laundry moment with Dorothy.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        August 20, 2023 at 8:37 am | #

        Funnily, Walky of all people got her to do it first, but that was just her walking back to her room when he was basically getting her to relax properly. Bur yeah, Dorothy sealed it.

  9. Quirdry Tawks
    Quirdry Tawks
    August 20, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Is Joyce having… THOSE feelings??

    le gasp

    le shock

    le scandal

  10. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    August 20, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Dunno about everyone else but I’m like 99% sure Joyce wasn’t dreaming.

    • Imogen
      Imogen
      August 20, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      Yeah, I lowkey think Dorothy just either refused or left before Joyce woke up. Of course, Sarah would presumably know, right?

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      August 20, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      I’m not quite at 99%, but definitely not at 0%. At least not the first part.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        August 20, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

        I’d guess hypnopompia, you can partially wake, have a limited awareness of your surroundings, and those get incorporated into your dream. Dorothy picks the lock is watching Joyce sleep, and Joyce wakes up a little and Dorothy tells her why she’s there as Joyce falls back asleep.

        • Dante
          Dante
          August 20, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

          Oh, you’re ABSOLUTELY right. She knows how to jimmy a door open O_O

          Yeah… She def came for real.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            August 20, 2023 at 1:37 am | #

            How’d she creep in without waking Sarah / Sarah’s baseball bat?
            I mean, I like the theory. It’s just not a bedroom I’d want to sneak into uninvited, is all I’m saying.

            • Fay
              Fay
              August 20, 2023 at 3:24 am | #

              I think it’s a pretty common thing that the girls often leave their doors unlocked. At least it explains why people just waltz into others’ rooms.

            • Hoboturtle
              Hoboturtle
              August 20, 2023 at 6:20 am | #

              Oh no. The baseball bat was aware. It just didn’t want to wake Sarah.

            • Azhrei Vep
              Azhrei Vep
              August 20, 2023 at 7:54 am | #

              Hey, Sara can sleep deeply once in a while. She doesn’t have to be on alert all the time.

              … If she hears someone crept into her room and watched Joyce sleep, she might work on changing that, though.

        • Doopyboop
          Doopyboop
          August 20, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

          One time I fell asleep on the couch and my mom started to play ‘Red Neck Comedy Tour’ on the TV, and it got incorporated into my dream. I dreamt I was at the grocery store but every customer around me kept repeating Jeff Foxworthy’s “You might be a redneck”/”here’s your sign” jokes. It was the strangest dream I’d ever had.

          • elebenty
            elebenty
            August 20, 2023 at 3:38 am | #

            I get that completely.

            I fell asleep while my SO was playing war board games with his buddies. They were talking about Wild Weasels, but in my dream they were the mammalian kind.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 20, 2023 at 2:42 pm | #

      Ok, that’s starting to get creep. And even creepier, thinking on how much it’s plausible.

  11. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    August 20, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Let’s be honest, Dorothy was having a murder dream. She has dark urges that must be fulfilled.

  12. Dante
    Dante
    August 20, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    [Tinfoil Hat] Yeahhhh, no. Willis is lampshading this one, maybe Joyce (who’s bi as per It’s Walky’s canon) has eyes only for Joe right now…

    But Dorothy is up for an, ah, awakening very soon – if it hasn’t happened yet. [/Tinfoil Hat]

    • Dante
      Dante
      August 20, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      (Why yes, I mostly come here when there’s something queer happening, why are you asking?)

      • Quirdry Tawks
        Quirdry Tawks
        August 20, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

        I can’t imagine who here would find that a problem… xD

        • Dante
          Dante
          August 20, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

          Ahahah, me neither, I just realized recently :’DD

      • milu
        milu
        August 20, 2023 at 7:58 am | #

        Hee hee
        Same pretty much 🥰

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      August 20, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      Nuuuuu sorry buddy, but the only feelings Dotty’s experiencing stem from her own self-imposed adherence to a totally arbitrary self-imposed standard…

      • Dante
        Dante
        August 20, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

        Can’t have a mental breakdown! That would make you unfit to be a president, so let’s not tell the therapist! Can’t be queer! That would make you unfit to be a president so let’s not even think about it!

        (In a more serious note, yeahhh, let’s hope a newer, freer self arises from the ashes – because homegirl is 10000% burning herself out here TwT)

      • fridge_logic
        fridge_logic
        August 20, 2023 at 4:40 am | #

        And that self imposed standard…

        … Is heteronormativity to get elected president.

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          August 20, 2023 at 3:33 pm | #

          Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup. She’d be so much happier if only she learned not to frame her goal too tightly. 😢

    • Tesset
      Tesset
      August 20, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

      Where in It’s Walky canon was Joyce bi? In the walkyverse the fact she wasn’t a lesbian was a source of a whole character arc for her mom.

      • Dante
        Dante
        August 20, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

        Anti-Joyce was bi :33

        • Mturtle7
          Mturtle7
          August 20, 2023 at 11:34 am | #

          Ok, I went back to check, and the most I can find are a couple of throwaway lines where Anti-Joyce suggests certain ladies “join in” while she’s mackin’ on dudes (e.g. https://www.itswalky.com/comic/wheres-joyce-imposter/). Which seems more performatively/jokingly ‘dirty’ than actually queer to me, but I can totally see how others might take that differently.

          • Thomas
            Thomas
            August 20, 2023 at 11:50 am | #

            Anti-Joyce specifically suggests Sal joins in. That seems telling, since we know how DoA Joyce behaved around Sal. So yeah, Joyce is bi.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 20, 2023 at 3:48 am | #

      lampshading is like a hint from of writer, right?

      • fridge_logic
        fridge_logic
        August 20, 2023 at 4:46 am | #

        Lampshading is the practice of characters acknowledging “just like in the movies” type events to blunt the audience’s reaction to fictional tropes.

        I.E. a character saying: “That was lucky” after the bad guy trying to get away gets a flat tire.

        Or a character saying “wow what an inspired plan” in response to another character’s wacky cartoon hijink laden plan.

        Basically the idea is that weird events stop being immersion breaking as long as someone in the universe acknowledges that they are weird.

    • bejouled
      bejouled
      August 20, 2023 at 8:01 am | #

      I read all of It’s Walky and for the life of me I don’t remember her being bi. Anybody got a comic link for me to see the source?

  13. Quirdry Tawks
    Quirdry Tawks
    August 20, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Oh em effin GEE I’m really here!?

    Thanks Dee Dub!! <3

    • Laura
      Laura
      August 20, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

      Welcome!

  14. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 20, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Who actually remembers their dreams? I’m a little envious. Sometimes I wake up feeling some sort of emotion like I had a dream or interesting idea, but I rarely recognize anything more substantial than just the feeling.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      August 20, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      I frequently remember them. Sometimes I have to close them down. As in, “welp, I’ve hit the snooze button I guess, so everyone in the world is going to have to be annihilated in the next 9 minutes if I don’t want to rush breakfast.”

    • Alongcameaspider
      Alongcameaspider
      August 20, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      I can usually remember them in the moments after waking up, I usually forget them within an hour or so afterwards though

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      August 20, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

      I almost never remember them. The closest I get is after sleeping for a few more hours on weekend mornings so I recall some details more clearly.

    • Cholma
      Cholma
      August 20, 2023 at 12:57 am | #

      I can recall a few scant seconds when I wake up, but then fade immediately. Mostly, the dreams I recall are the ones that my dad is in, talking and acting like just a normal day. But then when I wake up I remember he’s been dead for 20+ years. I asked one of my sisters and she confirmed that she experiences the same thing.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      August 20, 2023 at 12:59 am | #

      I used to remember mine well enough to write them down soon after I woke up, but nowadays, I’ve found I (1) get a good handle on the narrative of the dream shortly before I wake up, and then (2) promptly forget it within seconds.

      I’ve done a little bit of lucid dreaming and dream control, too, but I don’t really get anything out of it, so I don’t actually put effort in.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 20, 2023 at 1:40 am | #

        Lucid dreaming is super worth it. I fly around whenever I get the chance.

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          August 20, 2023 at 5:59 pm | #

          I am terrible at flying. Most of the time I just hover like a foot off the ground. It does clue me into it being a dream a lot of the time.

    • Masumi
      Masumi
      August 20, 2023 at 1:41 am | #

      I super rarely remember them – but sometimes in a dream I feel like I remember another dream, and that feeling is strange enough to remember.

    • milu
      milu
      August 20, 2023 at 8:16 am | #

      Last night i dreamed i saw a pretty big snake!
      It was a very happy dream.

    • zee
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      August 20, 2023 at 12:10 pm | #

      I remember the bad ones in relative detail but the ones where I’m actually invested in the plot I forget when I wake up. Other ones that I remember vaguely are a weird subgenre I started having a few months ago that I can only describe as gaslighting myself about things that don’t exist. I’d dream up these iconic cultural shared experiences; a historical required reading book that disturbed me as a kid, a favorite book, an old video game with an iconic song in it on the levels of something like “this is Halloween”, a musical that the 2015 musical tumblr girlies were obsessed with, in the same vein as like a “dear Evan Hansen” or “be more chill” or heathers. And every time I woke up and realized those things werent real I’d feel so devastated and confused like what else in my life is a lie????

    • Bemisawa
      Bemisawa
      August 20, 2023 at 1:52 pm | #

      I often remember my dreams, which I put down to often waking up a bunch of times during the night (boooo!) and writing down what I do remember as soon as I wake up. I used to be better about the latter, but it did seem to increase my ability to remember dreams with practice.

      Which reminds me…

  15. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    August 20, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Why does it matter that it is a horse and not a dragon?

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 20, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      That’s what i wanna know 😮 confusedPikachu.gif

      • Vanessa
        Vanessa
        August 20, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

        I seem to remember Willis showing us some childhood drawings he did with himself and his bestie riding a dragon together. Adorable.

        • Nono
          Nono
          August 20, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

          Yeah that got translated to Danny and Joe.

    • Nono
      Nono
      August 20, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      Horses are for girls, dragons are for boys.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        August 20, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

        Both sound pretty nice though. What does that mean?

        • AbacusWizard
          AbacusWizard
          August 20, 2023 at 5:17 am | #

          dragorse

      • Imogen
        Imogen
        August 20, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        Nonbinary people are issued one among a varied menagerie of griffons, cosmic horrors, and very large dogs.

        • clif
          clif
          August 20, 2023 at 1:21 am | #

          Always be a dragon.

          Unless you can be Cthulu. Then be Cthulu.

          • Imogen
            Imogen
            August 20, 2023 at 1:36 pm | #

            Eggs get steamboats. It’s part of their grace period.

  16. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    August 20, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    I get the feeling we are going to have a one sided dream sharing soon. Assuming that Dorothy hasn’t already gone off the deep end.

  17. Jamie
    Jamie
    August 20, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    I really hope Dorothy is actually there, hidden by perspective.

    • Vanessa
      Vanessa
      August 20, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      Haha: right behind the door like Dina!

  18. BBCC
    BBCC
    August 20, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    Not gonna happen, Sarah.

    • milu
      milu
      August 20, 2023 at 8:19 am | #

      Why would you even want that, Sarah.

  19. Nono
    Nono
    August 20, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    So, how long until we get to Sarah’s trauma about the kidnapping?

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      August 20, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

      Sarah probably doesn’t lie to her therapist and has thus probably been taught proper coping methods and possibly even prescribed medication and treatment if required. Or maybe she just built different.

      • Doopyboop
        Doopyboop
        August 20, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

        I’m not sure if Sarah has a therapist.

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          August 20, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

          Sarah assumedly has loving parents capable of providing access to proper medical care for her. Why would we assume she didn’t see a therapist even if only briefly after such a traumatic event?

          • Jamie
            Jamie
            August 20, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

            Well, specifically, Sarah has divorced parents who separately “swooped in” to share their concern for her after the kidnapping.

            • Bruno
              Bruno
              August 20, 2023 at 3:08 am | #

              I wonder if African-Americans have any feelings of their own about the medical system’s role in their lives or if it’s just unbridled enthusiasm all the way down.

              • The Oracle
                The Oracle
                August 20, 2023 at 3:18 am | #

                What a strange thing to wonder.

              • Miri
                Miri
                August 20, 2023 at 7:11 am | #

                … Do you mean in connection to things like The Tuskegee Syphilis Study; and the fact that medical professionals apparently anticipate Black people will experience lower pain and therefore provide lower/less/later pain relief (there is also a disparate treatment between men and women) and are more likely to treat them as drug-seeking when they are in pain and need of medical attention? In the US I’m sure I read that there was a disparately high death toll among the Black population from COVID. Their maternal death rate is also higher. So if you mean “is Sarah aware that systemic racism including within the medical system is an issue that she or her family members have faced or likely will face in her lifetime?” then I’m guessing yes..?

                Otherwise I’m not quite sure I understand the question? A non-sarcastic “are all African-Americans thrilled and enthusiastic about healthcare and happy to be passive recipients of it as their doctors dictate?” just doesn’t make any sense to me. And I’m neither Black nor American…

                But just because a system isn’t perfect, and people know that they may at least sometimes need to perform in a certain way to bypass gate-keeping and actually access services they should be able to use – that doesn’t mean that they would choose to shun them entirely. If you need just about any medication to literally stay alive and with it you can live a full, active life – you wouldn’t not take it just because your diagnosis, access to it etc are controlled by an imperfect system. That would be practically the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face!

                • Bruno
                  Bruno
                  August 21, 2023 at 9:40 pm | #

                  Well, I’m not black or American either, but with this context, it’s a bit off the wall to speculate that Sarah would have seen a therapist like as the go-to in every situation. Maybe she doesn’t want to because they do bad stuff to people.

          • Doopyboop
            Doopyboop
            August 20, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

            As Jamie pointed out, Sarah’s parents are divorced and we have no idea how amicable that is, other than ‘probably not too much’, plus Sarah also has a half-sister who’s a freshman in college, rather than being an only child who would get the lion’s share of affection.

            Plus, there’s historically been a societal view that only ‘crazy’ people go see a therapist. Obviously that isn’t the case, but loving parents or not, most people get kinda iffy to involve a therapist in anything. For example, when I told my grandma I wanted to see a therapist to help cope with the very sudden death of my mom to cancer, her response was “well… are you sure you NEED to see a therapist?”.

            Plus, Dorothy, who is actively seeing a therapist, isn’t immune to the view that therapy is bad/will reflect badly on her. It shouldn’t reflect badly on her, but terrible people could see that she’s been to a therapist, and call her mental acuity into question.

          • Doopyboop
            Doopyboop
            August 20, 2023 at 1:26 am | #

            Plus, Sarah is very dependent on scholarship money to attend (hence the Dana debacle…) so I don’t think her parents would have extra ‘Therapist’ money lying around.

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              August 20, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

              I feel like this assumes a lot about Sarah’s parents and their financial situation we don’t know. Maybe her parents are more than capable of paying her tuition but she got scholarships because she’s smart and you don’t want to pay for college if you don’t have to. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t or that they don’t have medical coverage to see a therapist. It’s just a little weird to me to assume one thing over the other.

              • Doopyboop
                Doopyboop
                August 20, 2023 at 1:58 am | #

                https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/03-trial-and-sarah/quit/

              • Doopyboop
                Doopyboop
                August 20, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

                Frankly, I think assuming Sarah already has a therapist on stand by is a much bigger assumption than figuring that the child of divorced parents who is attending college through her scholarship might not be in the best of situations financially. Plus, even if her parents did have a good medical insurance or money to pay for therapy, that also depends on Sarah wanting to see a therapist. I think if Sarah were already seeing a therapist, she wouldn’t be as misanthropic as she clearly is, as seen in her interactions with Lucy.

                • Sirksome
                  Sirksome
                  August 20, 2023 at 2:45 am | #

                  Ah, I see that point. I still don’t think not being capable of affording college tuition which is notoriously expensive quite equates to not affording to see a therapist a few times over winter break. Like we’re talking hundreds of thousands of dollars vs a few hundred bucks an hour as needed if you don’t have insurance.

                  Now it the arguments is that Sarah probably doesn’t want to see a therapist I would totally buy that, even if that’s also just more assumptions.

                  Truth be told I didn’t meant to fall into a rabbit hole about this. Sarah’s trauma probably just isn’t very relevant. Dina seems to have shrugged off the kidnapping event too.

                • Fay
                  Fay
                  August 20, 2023 at 3:33 am | #

                  Most colleges in the US offer students healthcare insurance and have an internal system of therapists. I can almost guarantee that their university at least *offered* them free access to therapy after they literally got kidnapped on campus.

                • milu
                  milu
                  August 20, 2023 at 8:28 am | #

                  @Sirksome: I’m sorry, did you mean to write “a few hundred bucks an hour”

                  Like, i’m not sure if that’s a couple words that got left behind an edit or if i’m about to learn some fresh horror about the US health system (an expensive therapist in europe is like 100 euro an hour, though 50 or so is more typical)

                • Joy
                  Joy
                  August 20, 2023 at 10:17 am | #

                  Sometimes therapists make your issues worse, or you become more likely to snap at people *because* you’re working through your issues…

                • Imogen
                  Imogen
                  August 20, 2023 at 1:33 pm | #

                  Milu, my girlfriend’s therapy costs $200. Insurance almost never covers therapy. We’ve been in talks about negotiating it down to $150, though, since this therapist is extremely kind. I had to cancel my therapy so she could get therapy, which seems selfless until you consider that it’s really just deciding who has to deal with a therapyless partner. 😛

                • Imogen
                  Imogen
                  August 20, 2023 at 1:39 pm | #

                  To be clear, most colleges do not charge “hundreds of thousands of dollars”. They charge tens of thousands, which is still, to be clear, extremely bad. If you want a “good college”, or an art school, that’s where it gets ugly. Indiana ranges from around $25k to $40k, depending on out-of-stateness.

                • milu
                  milu
                  August 20, 2023 at 6:15 pm | #

                  @Imogen
                  shit, that’s scary. yeah i was unsure if Sirksome meant 100’s of $ to cover the totaly of a, let’s say run of therapy sessions, cuz any specific problem you want addressed in therapy, if you’re actually budgeting it out, you will have to set aside several 100 bucks because it’ll take a few sessions at best.

                  but yeah..$200 an hour does feel wild though. sorry you even had to make that choice. i hope you’re ok.

              • Doopyboop
                Doopyboop
                August 20, 2023 at 2:05 am | #

                Also, another point in the ‘Sarah and her parents likely don’t have a lot of money’ pile, Sarah is a sophomore and yet still in the dorms that are USUALLY used by freshmen, most likely because the student affiliated apartments are more expensive than the dorms.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  August 20, 2023 at 9:34 am | #

                  So are all the other sophomores (or older) that we know.

                  Does IU have a tradition of most non-freshmen moving to apartments?

                • Doopyboop
                  Doopyboop
                  August 20, 2023 at 3:46 pm | #

                  I don’t want to get sucked into another rabbit hole of ‘actually’s and whatever else in this comment section so I will only say we have seen two other sophomores, AKA Carla and Rachel, who live in the on-campus dorms. Ruth doesn’t count because she’s an RA. Carla is trans and likely feels safest in her current dorm and despite having money to afford an apartment, wants to stay where she feels safest. We don’t know Rachel’s financial situation.

                  I was a college student, but not at IU, but typically at Universities, dorms have a limited amount of space available and they like to put as many freshmen in them as they can because living on campus is an easy transition into college life, as well as helps keep them involved in college activities (and away from crazy parties and drugs and whatever else). Also, while people might not mind having a roommate their first year of college, some students may desire their own living space for the rest of their schooling and move on to apartments nearby that offer more individual space. Not saying sophomores can’t live there too, but if they linger around they either A) just really like the area/place/don’t wanna move all their shit or B) perhaps cannot afford to go somewhere else.

                • Doopyboop
                  Doopyboop
                  August 20, 2023 at 3:48 pm | #

                  Also at some colleges, either you cannot have a car OR, like in the case with my college, parking is a nightmare and so if you own a car you really need to use or would like to have a guarantied parking space for, that’d be another motivator.

            • Leorale
              Leorale
              August 20, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

              The school likely covers therapy through the health center. It may be luck of the draw as to whether the school therapists are any good, but still, Sarah can probably access therapy if she wants it. She wouldn’t even need to tell her parents unless she wants to.

              That said, different people are traumatized by different things. Sarah seems more upset about the Dana debacle than the violent kidnapping, and sometimes, that’s just how it goes.

          • Nono
            Nono
            August 20, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

            Dorothy has loving parents capable of providing access to proper medical care for her. And yet.

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              August 20, 2023 at 1:43 am | #

              It’s been established Dorothy withholds trauma from her therapist as to not create an incriminating trail of mental struggle that could theoretically be dug up and sabotage her presidential aspirations. Probably ironic now that she’s abandoned those goals.

          • Uly
            Uly
            August 20, 2023 at 3:46 pm | #

            Aside from the fact that we’re currently in a dire shortage of mental health professionals – and this was the case *before* the pandemic? Or the fact that if you’re a minority in even one way you’d be well-advised to choose your therapist carefully so you don’t have to deal with ismist garbage during your own sessions?

    • Mano308gts
      Mano308gts
      August 20, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

      iirc, Sarah displayed solid levels of agency and coolheadedness during the kidnapping; she also got to physically, violently fight her captors (and win until they pulled a hostage on her)…

      I think Sarah came out of there with an ‘I even survived a kidnapping! I can handle myself anywhere!’ Mindset… Literally the representation of what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. (That’s nonsense, by the way… But occasionally it does work out)

      • Just an Armadillo
        Just an Armadillo
        August 20, 2023 at 12:57 am | #

        I would argue she came out of the incident feeling a little bit too confident, honestly. She doesn’t seem traumatized, but I feel like most of the panels where she’s been a bit too much for me lately have been because of exactly this mindset you’re describing.

        • Imogen
          Imogen
          August 20, 2023 at 1:35 pm | #

          I’m not sure it’s deliberate, but I do wonder if Sarah is leaning more into her “my meannness is good because it kept my loved ones safe” mindset as a cope lately.

    • Fay
      Fay
      August 20, 2023 at 3:28 am | #

      Two people can experience the same events and only one comes out traumatized. Dorothy is already more high strung to begin with, couple that with the stress from her overworking herself and also witnessing Amber slice up whats-his-face and it makes sense she’s the one more likely to be traumatized.

      • Joy
        Joy
        August 20, 2023 at 10:20 am | #

        Also Sarah literally just doesn’t empathize with people as much, which helps wrt traumatization. (she’s very caring but doesn’t empathize a lot which I actually appreciate a lot.)

  20. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    August 20, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    It should have been a unicorn!

  21. Samniel
    Samniel
    August 20, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    Joyce is slowly becoming the lesbomancer, fear her, for Mary’s her next victim.

    • Icalasari
      Icalasari
      August 20, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      Oh ye gods please

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      August 20, 2023 at 1:35 pm | #

      “How DARE you put LESBIAN THOUGHTS in my HEAD via DREAMS, you witch!”
      “Mary, what-”
      “Are you TIRED, witch?! Tired of running through my dreams all night, inciting LEWD THOUGHTS?!”
      “This is the worst come on I’ve ever experienced, and that’s saying something.”

  22. Suet
    Suet
    August 20, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    Dream or reality, some raison d’être this is turning out to be.

    Okayyy, who invited JJ Abrams in?

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 20, 2023 at 7:31 am | #

      That hand in your avatar? I’m outta guesses.

      • Suet
        Suet
        August 20, 2023 at 11:53 pm | #

        🤏🏻 The gravatar collection’s outta wack

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 20, 2023 at 9:22 am | #

      Nah, it couldn’t be him. Not enough lens flare.

  23. Qube
    Qube
    August 20, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    why are your feelings towards dragons so bad, Willis

  24. Mym
    Mym
    August 20, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

    https://twitter.com/MymdalinB/status/1693124056516595840?s=20
    Made a sfw fanart for today….But someday I’ll post some real Joyce Dorothy art

    • Dante
      Dante
      August 20, 2023 at 1:06 am | #

      OMG THIS IS SO CUTE, I love them ;www; I mean it, it’s already plenty Joyce/Dorothy. I’ll be delighted to see more of it~ ♥

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 20, 2023 at 1:34 am | #

      Oh wow this looks beautiful! 😍🌈

      Quite generous with Dotty’s bust I see, I ain’t complaining tho 😂🥰

      • Mym
        Mym
        August 20, 2023 at 2:15 am | #

        OMG I FORGOT HER FRECKLES.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 20, 2023 at 3:53 am | #

      lovely

    • milu
      milu
      August 20, 2023 at 8:31 am | #

      Cute!!! Yes more plssss

  25. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    August 20, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

    Horses sure means a lot of things in dreams, apparently

    • milu
      milu
      August 20, 2023 at 8:32 am | #

      Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

      This isn’t one of those times

  26. Kenny Williams
    Kenny Williams
    August 20, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

    Just get together already!!

  27. morhek
    morhek
    August 20, 2023 at 1:58 am | #

    “Listen, EVERYONE has very vivid dreams about their same-sex friends who they masturbated with being very protective and crawling into bed with them, that doesn’t make me GAY.”

    “You are currently dating a man, so that is TECHNICALLY correct, but only technically.”

    “Who told you about Joe?”

    “I can smell the Axe Body Spray on you.”

  28. Da Boy
    Da Boy
    August 20, 2023 at 5:09 am | #

    Plot twist: They are still in the horse’s dream.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 20, 2023 at 9:20 am | #

      The entirety of DoA so far has been Horse’s dream.

  29. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    August 20, 2023 at 5:16 am | #

    Dumbing of Age, Book 14: It’s Not Like We Were Riding A Horse Or Anything

  30. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    August 20, 2023 at 5:39 am | #

    I keep hearing Eugene Lee Yang cheerfully saying, “Gay Horse!”

  31. AlaninDC
    AlaninDC
    August 20, 2023 at 7:20 am | #

    “Pshaw”?
    You’re now entering the Joyce Dialog Zone. Please set your watches back to 1866, dag nabbit.

    • AlaninDC
      AlaninDC
      August 20, 2023 at 6:36 pm | #

      Wait a minute… did Joyce just say “Phsaw” (F’-Saw) instead of “Pshaw” (p’-Shaw)?

      Man, home schooling did nothing for her if it couldn’t properly teach her an expression from 150 years ago…

  32. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    August 20, 2023 at 7:42 am | #

    Joyce doing a bit – nice to see

  33. Owlmirror
    Owlmirror
    August 20, 2023 at 8:54 am | #

    Sarah, stop telling Joyce what to dream.

    And stop being so heteronormative.

    Dream gay, do dream crimes.

  34. thumb
    thumb
    August 20, 2023 at 9:31 am | #

    Damn, these young adults want each other so bad, huh

  35. Adept
    Adept
    August 20, 2023 at 11:38 am | #

    Wait, is a dream about riding a horse supposed to be a sex reference? Is this some Freudian garbage or what?

    • NickG
      NickG
      August 20, 2023 at 12:40 pm | #

      It could be an ‘Azumanga Daioh’ reference, Ms. Sakaki and Kaorin ride a white horse together in Kaorin’s New Years dream sequence.

      • NickG
        NickG
        August 20, 2023 at 12:42 pm | #

        And Kaorin is totally gay for Sakaki no matter how much she tries to deny it.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        August 20, 2023 at 9:50 pm | #

        I mean Willis loves Azumanga Daioh, of course it’s a reference to it. XD

    • AndaR
      AndaR
      August 20, 2023 at 1:40 pm | #

      There’s a trope/stereotype about lesbians loving horses, or horse girls being lesbians (along the lines of cottagecore lesbians). I once saw a review of the book called “The Big Book Of Lesbian Horse Stories” and it was a riot 🙂

    • Segnosaur
      Segnosaur
      August 20, 2023 at 1:58 pm | #

      My assumption is that women are supposed to get some “pleasure” from the act of riding a horse (with the friction and vibration that comes from riding).

      I have no idea if there is any truth to it, but Family Guy made a joke about it once… Meg was fantasizing about riding a horse with a boy she had a crush on. She tells him something like “let’s stop now so I can save one for you” (paraphrasing), suggesting riding the horse lead to an orgasm, but she was going to also have sex with the boy.

  36. Plaaaaaa
    Plaaaaaa
    August 20, 2023 at 12:26 pm | #

    Or a dryer…

  37. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    August 20, 2023 at 3:50 pm | #

    If Joyce is feeling especially impish, well, she’s got an example of “straighter” behavior from her readily available.

    (Not that dating Joe makes Joyce straight, there’s plenty of evidence she is bi or pan, between Dorothy and Joyce’s acknowledged fascination with Billie/Jennifer’s breasts.)

  38. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    August 20, 2023 at 6:06 pm | #

    I get the feeling that Joyce is intentionally playing up the gayness to mess with Sarah.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      August 20, 2023 at 10:11 pm | #

      Probably to a degree, like I think she’s becoming less personally flustered by it, but it’s also probably because she’s the one weaponizing it here for the joke.

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 20, 2023 at 11:05 pm | #

      i’d think she’d be too groggy to play up anything with snark and such but it has been a decade or two since i was a teen lol

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I’ve loved movies ever since I was a little kid. Just stepping into that dark theater, with the smell of fresh popcorn, was like being transported to a whole other world. It used to be so magical. But now I’m thinking about boycotting movies altogether. Why? Because I can’t seem to watch one anymore without […]
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
GOTTEM
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geoffrey @parsnip.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
the 90s were a wild time. if i told you how many magazines there were you wouldnt even believe me
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Aubrey Gilleran @aubreygilleran.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
It's not a new argument, of course, but Chesterton dismissed it effectively in 1908. "You will hear everlastingly... this argument that the rich man cannot be bribed. The fact is, of course, that the rich man is bribed; he has been bribed already. That is why he is a rich man."
atrupar.com's user avatarAaron Rupar @atrupar.com ⋅ 2d
Hawley dismisses Trump lining his pockets with his memecoin: "Listen, I think nobody believes that Donald Trump can be bought. I mean, what does Donald Trump need more money for?"
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Cat Manning @catacalypto.bsky.social ⋅ 10d
1984 calendar meme reading 1529, the year of the first Ottoman siege of Vienna
spavel.bsky.social's user avatarPavel🐀 @spavel.bsky.social ⋅ 11d
Who can forget the Swiss-Austrian Union, or its famous capital - Istanbul.
AI generated ad by a company called Travello showing the 10 most visited cities in Europe, except the cities are hilariously poorly placed. London is in Wales, Paris is in Ireland, Rome is in France, Rom (yes like Rome but without an E) is in Spain, Barcelona is in Morocco, Prague is in Germany, Vienna is in Italy, Istanbul is in Austria, Milan is in Libya, and Antalya is correctly shown as in Turkey but is in the wrong place. Also a few of the borders like Switzerland and Austria or Hungary and Slovenia are missing.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
*at the very end of Andor, cassian travels through a vortex that makes everyone look a decade younger*
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
(May 14, 2026)
a bemused lucy watches as somebody collapses on her dorm room floor
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
wilbur, savvy enough to know he's in a comic strip but still not a great actor, awkwardly lifts a muffin up into frame so that we, the audience, understand that he has a muffin right now, which is very important narratively, but he's not really selling it well as an organic, human action
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Up" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic #dofa
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
i mean i... guess there are people who want toy-accurate hyper-articulated original-toy-look guys but in cartoon colors for some reason
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Fuck you, Clayface!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609982... selling my LG34 Mindwipe, minus Servant
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Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Transformers Generations TakaraTomy Legends LG34 Wipe (Mindwipe), incomplete at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many pro...
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Menace Level: up to date on his vaccinations
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned Gran is back from the grave so she can jerk it to furry porn with her daughter
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609184... 5 hours left on my 4-jet titans return tidal wave
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Check out those stickers. They make him look pretty great, actually. That aircraft carrier mode shines. Tidal Wave is loose and incomplete! So there's only four (4) jets!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
confirming that the reason there's been no Galaxy Version female characters in Blokees until now is that they felt they needed to make Round Lady Thighs For Ladies
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Dumbing of Age: "For you" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
y'know there's not an awful lot of rocketeering in The Rocketeer
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