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by David M Willis on July 12, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - The 'Do' List
└ Tags: jennifer, ruth

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    July 12, 2017 at 12:01 am | #

    “what if I put a Mets poster over it”

    “and that helps how…?”

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      July 12, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

      dang it

      • Pablo360
        Pablo360
        July 12, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

        Did Willis change the hovertext again

    • Gojira
      Gojira
      July 12, 2017 at 12:37 am | #

      Hey, the Mets won in my lifetime.

      • vlademir1
        vlademir1
        July 12, 2017 at 2:06 am | #

        If the leagues are fair, within a given lifetime period you’ll see just about every team in every major pro sport win at least once. Having lived just about 38 years, about 50% of the teams in the NFL & NHL have one at least once during my lifetime and 70% of MLB teams have won. Despite following both rugby and association football, unlike say basketball, I’m not trying to figure the percentages there both due to the huge range of national associations involved and past experience with hardline debates regarding governing bodies and amateur vs professional play.

        • C.
          C.
          July 12, 2017 at 4:45 am | #

          Don’t forget the promotion and relegation system.

        • Matt Heath
          Matt Heath
          July 12, 2017 at 6:29 am | #

          A bigger factor than either of those (in soccer, at least) is that the leagues *aren’t* remotely fair (in the sense that clubs have similar chances at the start of a season) and no attempt is made to even them out. In some national leagues (Portugal, say) the distance between a few elite clubs and the middle of the table is just ridiculous.

          • Rukduk
            Rukduk
            July 12, 2017 at 6:13 pm | #

            Like in US baseball, where the big cities with lots of money (most egregiously the New York Yankees) will poach all of the best players by making them an offer they’d have to be crazy (or a Boston native) to refuse.

      • Djaevlenselv
        Djaevlenselv
        July 12, 2017 at 5:44 am | #

        I first read this as “Hey, the Mets won in my timeline.”

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          July 12, 2017 at 7:50 am | #

          I wonder if that timeline is much better, or if they’ve got an Artificial Humans situation on their hands.

    • Some Dude
      Some Dude
      July 14, 2017 at 9:20 pm | #

      Gotta get her into a winning mindset.

  2. AndroidDreams
    AndroidDreams
    July 12, 2017 at 12:01 am | #

    Everyones willing to kill a puppy for billy

    On nintendogs

    • Cephalo the Pod
      Cephalo the Pod
      July 12, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

      Holy shit, you can kill the nintendogs?

      • MatthewTheLucky
        MatthewTheLucky
        July 12, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

        You can just throw the cartridge away. It would be like death for them.

        PROFESSOR SNUGGLESWORTH!

        • Cephalo the Pod
          Cephalo the Pod
          July 12, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

          Highly debatable. Demolishing the cartridge would erase the past, present and future of that fictional universe.

          Less of a death and more of an uncreation.

          • miados
            miados
            July 12, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

            oh so like what happened in the maze of many in the goblins comic.

          • Rowen Morland
            Rowen Morland
            July 12, 2017 at 1:06 am | #

            What if you opened up the cartridge and just rubbed off the bit that lets your save?

            • Cephalo the Pod
              Cephalo the Pod
              July 12, 2017 at 1:58 am | #

              That’s more or less just stripping yourself of your godhood.

              Hm, a god whose main power resides in an element of the universe they create. That’s gotta be a main tenet of at least one religion out there.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 12, 2017 at 7:51 am | #

        Nintendogs are from Universe 9, so technically they don’t exist anymore.

  3. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    July 12, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    Billie says she will never leave Ruth, but wait until she finds out that the RA across the street is an angsty redhead with family issues.

    • Tarmaniel
      Tarmaniel
      July 12, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

      I’m reasonably certain the rules of drama dictate that this is Alice’s dorm.

      • Neeks
        Neeks
        July 12, 2017 at 6:45 am | #

        Even better, Alice is her new roommate/neighbor.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        July 12, 2017 at 7:59 pm | #

        What if it’s the McAwesome’s to Read Hall’s Shortpacked? Everyone has a counterpart, everything is different yet oddly familiar.

  4. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    July 12, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    Mary would kill a puppy.

    Not for Billie, just for kicks.

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      July 12, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

      She’d do it for God.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        July 12, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

        She’d do it for a Klondike Bar.

        • Yet_One_More_Idiot
          Yet_One_More_Idiot
          July 12, 2017 at 4:12 am | #

          She’d probably do it for a Yorkie bar too, but – they’re not for girls!

          (according to their ads)

      • bubba0077
        bubba0077
        July 12, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

        More like she’d do it just because and then justify it as being what God wanted.

    • DrWattson
      DrWattson
      July 12, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

      I mean, why else was she so happy (I sincerely hope the hyperlink worked)

      • DrWattson
        DrWattson
        July 12, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

        And I fucked it up. Hover over it for what I meant.

        • Pablo360
          Pablo360
          July 12, 2017 at 12:23 am | #

          At least all of the elements you wanted were actually there, just in the wrong place, sometimes you ain’t so lucky

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 12, 2017 at 7:38 am | #

      She would do it and say it was righteous because the puppy was sinning.

  5. Yumi
    Yumi
    July 12, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    Well, that’s horrifying.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      July 12, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      But still romantic :3

      • inqntrol
        inqntrol
        July 12, 2017 at 12:38 am | #

        Nothing says romantic like killing a puppy for your partner.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      July 12, 2017 at 1:28 am | #

      The dialogue…changed, right? I’m not losing touch with reality?

      • MatthewTheLucky
        MatthewTheLucky
        July 12, 2017 at 2:46 am | #

        Definitely.

      • miados
        miados
        July 12, 2017 at 11:43 am | #

        it said puppy when i first checked.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 12, 2017 at 11:55 am | #

        And it changed again, I think. I’m not enjoying this.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          July 12, 2017 at 12:20 pm | #

          Okay, maybe it didn’t change back and it was just my phone. Or a hole in the simulation. Okay.

          • Halpful
            Halpful
            July 12, 2017 at 4:02 pm | #

            cache magic. 🙂

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            July 12, 2017 at 8:00 pm | #

            The Matrix runs on Amazon AWS, and it’s still recovering from Prime Day.

  6. JetstreamGW
    JetstreamGW
    July 12, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    Puppy killin’ relationships are keepers, a’yup.

    … Amidoinitrite?

  7. Antonio
    Antonio
    July 12, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Man, I saw John Wick. That’s more trouble than it’s worth.

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 12, 2017 at 1:38 am | #

      Not gonna lie, that one scene made me cry. You know which one. That’s the second most evil thing a character played by that actor has ever done. (He also plays Theon Greyjoy, who literally killed children and even that still somehow feels only barely more evil than what he did in John Wick.)

  8. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    July 12, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Well, Mary would be happy to do that, but only for evil/selfish reasons. because mary.

    • Passchendaele
      Passchendaele
      July 12, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      damn it, somebody already made that joke, and it’s better than mine

  9. Shiro
    Shiro
    July 12, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    As someone who’s had a lot of long-distance relationships, this conversation is familiar.

  10. Machrocket
    Machrocket
    July 12, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    I told my girlfriend today that I would not kill a puppy for her love.

    She understood.

    • AGV
      AGV
      July 12, 2017 at 3:33 am | #

      Well, even in the abstract (as Dotty would say) it’s a horrible thing to do, at least for me

  11. miados
    miados
    July 12, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    how big a dog? some seem more effort than others.

    • SgtWadeyWilson
      SgtWadeyWilson
      July 12, 2017 at 1:02 am | #

      If it’s true love, size never matters. *Eyebrow waggle.*

  12. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 12, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    Billie drives a hard bargain, like dang.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      July 12, 2017 at 5:02 am | #

      Last panel Billie’s words sound like something Faye Whitaker might say.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        July 12, 2017 at 5:03 am | #

        Also her facial expression there.

  13. fillerusername
    fillerusername
    July 12, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    I understand Ruth’s fear but Billie hasn’t actually been in her assigned room for weeks so will this really change their situation much at all except removing the power imbalance. Are there rules about students staying in other dorms for extended periods of time? If there is I feel like Chloe might say something if Billie is always there like she plans to be.

    • miados
      miados
      July 12, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

      probably depends on the time frame. also while there are laws/rules they are often the ones that matter and the ones that if you have the time and desire to enforce it. or ones that are on the books only because nobody cared enough to remove it.

      • Betty Anne
        Betty Anne
        July 12, 2017 at 1:43 am | #

        ^ This. My campus had rules about entering and leaving via fourth-floor windows, but that didn’t stop students from doing it. :p

        • miados
          miados
          July 12, 2017 at 11:46 am | #

          yeah its a matter of how much they care to enforce the laws. I mean heck there are lots of laws on the books that nobody enforces in america. If i remember right for example

          in florida its illegal to sleep with your shoes on
          in michigan its illegal for a married woman to get a haircut without her hubbys consent
          and in one of those landlocked states like maybe montana its legal to kill whales
          and another i forget the state its legal to kill indians who are chasing you, but only if you are in a covered wagon.

  14. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    July 12, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

    *plays the Stax School Students version of “Walkin’ The Dog” on the hacked Muzak*

  15. Achallenger
    Achallenger
    July 12, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

    Say what you will about Billie, at least the girl got standards

  16. Asmodeus
    Asmodeus
    July 12, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

    I have had this conversation with my partner…

  17. Misteline
    Misteline
    July 12, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    Good. Dolphins are terrible.

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      July 12, 2017 at 1:51 am | #

      Bloody rapists. Almost as bad as ducks.

      • 3oranges
        3oranges
        July 12, 2017 at 10:37 am | #

        It’s weird to me people write off whole groups like that. Even for ducks isn’t that behavior primarily the males? What did the females do wrong to get denounced?

        But even without them, I’m curious how typical that is of dolphins. There are lots of different species. And you hear even worse stuff about Homo sapiens, but I know it’s not all of them, just a very horrible percentage. Are dolphins more uniform in that?

        • 3-I
          3-I
          July 12, 2017 at 1:01 pm | #

          Alan Moore wrote an entire song about what the ducks do. Drinking, carousing, stealing cars, plotting and planning behind your back…

        • Socks
          Socks
          July 12, 2017 at 7:38 pm | #

          I think the thing where Dolphins will just kill sharks for fun is probably fun for the whole dolphin family. I don’t think we have any reason to believe that even if not all dolphins HAVE killed for fun, any of them would. They’re smart, and amoral, because… they’re animals. You can’t really call them evil for the same reason, of course, but they’re still a hell of a lot less likeable than puppies. Puppies are so cute and good! Dolphins might murder you and laugh at your corpse.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            July 12, 2017 at 10:07 pm | #

            Well, dolphins kill sharks when they can, but then, you know, those’re sharks.

            Dolphins are far, far less likely to attack people than those sharks that they attack.

            I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for dolphins, I admit. Basically though, you’re right. They’re animals and not neotenous domesticated ones. Thus talking about “murder” or “rape” isn’t really meaningful.

          • 3oranges
            3oranges
            July 12, 2017 at 11:08 pm | #

            It doesn’t make sense to apply human standards to animals, but I have tough time describing them as uniformly amoral. I don’t know about dolphins, but some primates have culturally transmitted behavior and notions of fairness and reciprocity. And at that point, it makes sense to talk about individuals as good eggs or assholes, doesn’t it?

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      July 12, 2017 at 4:57 am | #

      “They seem nice enough at first…”

    • OnyxIdol
      OnyxIdol
      July 12, 2017 at 6:44 am | #

      Playful nature, high intelligence and amorality are a bad combination.

      • Neeks
        Neeks
        July 12, 2017 at 6:48 am | #

        So you’re saying dolphins are Faerie then?

        That would actually explain a lot.

  18. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    July 12, 2017 at 12:23 am | #

    Is it weird that I could not bring myself to harm a cat or a dog for someone else, but would be willing to kill another human for someone else? And is this something I should talk to my psychiatrist about? I’m genuinely curious.

    • John
      John
      July 12, 2017 at 12:46 am | #

      I think you ought to reconsider the first part of that, anyway. Some dogs is assholes, man.

      — someone who as a child got bitten in the ass by a Doberman named “Nazi”, and had to get tetanus shots and stuff

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 12, 2017 at 1:25 am | #

        Who the hell names their dog “Nazi”? That’s a sure sign of a bad owner, and a bad owner is what turns dogs into assholes.
        …
        Also, very sorry to hear about that horrid experience with dogs that you had. That would definitely leave a very bad impression.

        • Skater Girl (@syleegrrl)
          Skater Girl (@syleegrrl)
          July 12, 2017 at 1:40 am | #

          To be fair, a human who became an asshole because they were raised by abusive parents is still an asshole. Same goes for dogs.

          • Rukduk
            Rukduk
            July 12, 2017 at 1:53 am | #

            Oh most definitely. It’s just…when humans are assholes to each other it makes me angry. When dogs are assholes to humans it makes me sad. I don’t know why.

        • John
          John
          July 12, 2017 at 2:43 am | #

          Probably would have been worse if I hadn’t known the dog’s name. She backed off when I yelled, “Nazi! NO!” at her.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          July 12, 2017 at 5:14 pm | #

          And probably some scars.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      July 12, 2017 at 4:49 am | #

      I forget where you are and that could be important due to cultural differences.

      In the US, and in Britain, animals, especially companion/domesticated, are revered. There’s a certain trust of people, especially dogs. And abusing that trust is monstrous and loathsome. It’s doing that to something which hasn’t got a wild animal’s.wariness (but hitting wild animals is bad too of course) or an adult’s ability to protect itself and be suspicious.

      The tropes “kick the dog” and also “would hurt a child” exist for a reason. Would a professional assassin kill, or a thug beat up, an adult? Yes. Would they kick a dog or hurt a child? Well, that’s too far.

      • Trolldrool
        Trolldrool
        July 12, 2017 at 6:18 am | #

        I wasn’t aware those were actual tropes, but historically the Nazis were the ones who created the first modern animal welfare organization with government funding and approval and support from the nation’s top leader. Although I don’t think that really improves their image that they considered animals to deserve basic human rights more than people that didn’t meet the demands of their twisted racial supremacy ideology.

        • Rukduk
          Rukduk
          July 12, 2017 at 2:58 pm | #

          Well, the Nazis weren’t anything if they weren’t crazy and inconsistent. They were basically the mad scientist trope with a huge dose of racism and a morbid focus on making warfare even crueler. Occasionally there were a couple advances that could be applied to peaceful purposes, the jet engine, green energy experiments, and pro-environmentalism (apparently Hitler thought the Germans needed so much territory in order to have an environmentally friendly country, and that only Germans deserved such a utopia) being prime examples. Everything else, horrible to a degree so extreme it makes one sick to even think about.

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm | #

      That is not weird in the slightest. There are big differences between them and adult humans.

      Morally, we find it monstrous to attack something that cannot defend itself or understand why it is being hurt when we know it can feel pain and are able to sympathise with it. Because you know what else that applies to? Babies. And we treat our companion animals like babies or children – we want to protect them from needless harm, they don’t deserve to be harmed in our minds unless they are actively attacking you or causing you harm because they don’t fully understand the impact of their actions or the possible consequences of them.

      And even with animals that we aren’t particularly fond of and don’t sympathise with as much as cats or dogs, we aren’t particularly fond of them being tortured needlessly or suffering needlessly because we know they won’t understand why that is happening to them.

      An adult human on the other hand should know society’s morals. They are generally more capable of defending themselves and understanding why you would harm them. You are more likely to lose sympathy for them and find it acceptable to inflict harm on them because they are old enough to know the full impact of their actions and all the possible consequences.

      Also, there is generally much less chance that a cat or dog or companion animal (excluding exotic ones that aren’t actually domesticated in the slightest) in general will do something to someone else that will make you want to hurt it than a human adult will.

  19. John
    John
    July 12, 2017 at 12:23 am | #

    So let’s just pretend that it always said “dolphin”, so everyone thinks everyone who posted above this can’t read.

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      July 12, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

      Yeah that was pretty surreal

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      July 12, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

      You could probably use comment timestamps to pinpoint the exact moment it happened

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        July 12, 2017 at 1:52 am | #

        Nah. There’s still a bunch of people talking about the ‘puppy’ version later than people talking about the ‘dolphin’ version.

        • ObiKemnebi
          ObiKemnebi
          July 12, 2017 at 2:48 pm | #

          I’ve updated it a couple times since I noticed the comments switch to dolphins. The comic still shows puppy for me…

    • Rectilinear Propagation
      Rectilinear Propagation
      July 12, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

      I just got here and was legit confused.

      • Ed Rhodes
        Ed Rhodes
        July 12, 2017 at 8:20 am | #

        Ditto

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 12, 2017 at 8:06 pm | #

      It was always “Berenstain Bears”.

  20. Bagge
    Bagge
    July 12, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

    Ever the romantic.

  21. Badgermole
    Badgermole
    July 12, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

    Ruth, dating someone in a different quad doesn’t count as long distance.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 12, 2017 at 4:22 am | #

      They might still want to take up sexting.

      “I FUCKING HATE YOUR FUCKING FACE!”
      “YOU ARE FAT AND ALSO DUMB”
      “…wanna fuck?”
      “keep the window open”

  22. Barf Ninjason
    Barf Ninjason
    July 12, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

    Girl, I would snuff a puppy for you.
    I would give a baby a wedgie.
    I would tell a rabbit it was its birthday and that it should meet us at Applebee’s for the party and then when the rabbit got there, it would have to wait a long time to come sit down and listen to me day that it was not the rabbi’s birthday after all and that I had cancelled it’s credit cards and sold its family to some kids with shirts that said “I hate rabbits.”
    Oh yeah, girl, this is accurate.
    I’m just saying, puppies should watch out around me.
    Because I would kill them, girl.
    I would kill them for you.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      July 12, 2017 at 4:39 am | #

      Anyone else trying to hear Bruno Mars’ voice sing that in their head?

      • rectilinearpropagation
        rectilinearpropagation
        July 12, 2017 at 12:27 pm | #

        I did except for the rabbit part, which I read in Andre 3000’s voice (specifically that one bit from Roses).

  23. Irredentist
    Irredentist
    July 12, 2017 at 12:27 am | #

    Ruth abuses her power, and Billie is the one who has to leave? That still upsets me. I’m impressed Billie took such injustice so coolly.

    • Josh Spicer
      Josh Spicer
      July 12, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

      The whole situation is a shit storm. Ideally Ruth wouldn’t be the RA anymore but because Mr. Grandshitlord has power apparently this is what we get.

      • Irredentist
        Irredentist
        July 12, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

        Yeah it sucks. Basically fuck Ruth’s granddad.

        • Orion Fury
          Orion Fury
          July 12, 2017 at 12:37 am | #

          I am curious if she has an uncle named Robert.

      • ESM
        ESM
        July 12, 2017 at 12:50 am | #

        I’m still very confused by that whole aspect. I understand why “Let me solve all your problems for you or I’ll beat this child” makes Ruth’s grampa evil, but I don’t understand how him solving all Ruth’s problems is bad. Billie’s weekend is ruined moving, but now she can Ruth can date openly and safely and without a weird power dynamic.

        • Irredentist
          Irredentist
          July 12, 2017 at 1:00 am | #

          The point is that her problems are not solved. She is still the RA, which she doesn’t want to be, and which inhibits her mental health, and no she can’t “safely” date Billie because granddad doesn’t want her to.

          • Halpful
            Halpful
            July 12, 2017 at 1:09 am | #

            plus she’s got people mad at her for keeping her job even though she didn’t have a choice in the matter.

            and the lack of choice is itself bad for her mental health; feeling trapped and helpless just makes everything worse.

          • Fart Captor
            Fart Captor
            July 12, 2017 at 1:29 am | #

            Yeah, they could ALSO have dated openly without the power dynamic if Ruth was no longer an RA at all, and Ruth wouldn’t have had the additional source of stress and drain on her time and energy that are going to make her recovery more difficult.

            Like, even if she ends up pulling herself together and keeping the job ends up being a net benefit somehow, the fact that he at no point spoke to Ruth about any of it before deciding what must happen would still be absolute god awful shit parenting.

        • Tadpole7
          Tadpole7
          July 12, 2017 at 1:16 am | #

          It’s a control issue thing. he didn’t solve her problems, what he did was a straight power play designed to rob her agency. She doesn’t want the job, she’s shit at it, she knows it and it feeds into her depression . She needs room to recover and it was taken away. His moving Billy wasn’t a favor it was a display of control, the ability to move someone she cares about regardless of Billy wishes. It’s a threat and taints the real benefits of them being in different dorms.

          He arranged things to his pleasure, grounded her face into her failures much of which he arbitrarily assigned to her. Demonstrated he could affect those close to her. Ruth is trapped no actual problems were solved.

          • StClair
            StClair
            July 12, 2017 at 2:48 am | #

            This.

  24. Shade
    Shade
    July 12, 2017 at 12:27 am | #

    Indeed, killing of aquatic mammals is the benchmark to which all true love stories should aspire.

    • John
      John
      July 12, 2017 at 12:43 am | #

      Like Moby Dick. Or Star Trek IV.

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 12, 2017 at 1:29 am | #

        I forget, is the rule we ignore all odd numbered Star Trek movies except for Search for Spock or is the rule we ignore all the even numbered Star Trek movies except for Wrath of Khan?

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          July 12, 2017 at 1:33 am | #

          They’re all great. It’s just that most of them are also terrible.

          • Rukduk
            Rukduk
            July 12, 2017 at 1:42 am | #

            That is highly illogical, and yet completely correct.
            …
            I still say Wrath of Khan is the best Star Trek movie of all time (so far).

            • John
              John
              July 12, 2017 at 2:40 am | #

              My rule is I ignore the all the Star Trek movies where Kirk is played by someone who isn’t Shatner.

              By my usual criteria of evaluating a “good movie” (do I frequently quote it in completely unrelated circumstances?), the best Trek movie is VI. You haven’t experienced Star Trek until you’ve seen it in the original Klingon.

              • Vulcanodon
                Vulcanodon
                July 12, 2017 at 7:24 am | #

                That is a good criteria; I’m assimilating it.

              • Rukduk
                Rukduk
                July 12, 2017 at 10:53 am | #

                I’ll give you “the original Klingon” quote, but only if you recognize the timelessness of “Khhhaaaaaannnnn!!!”

                • Rukduk
                  Rukduk
                  July 12, 2017 at 4:36 pm | #

                  And also “You have been…and always will be…my friend” coupled with “Of all the souls I knew, his was the most…human”. Gets me in the feels every last time.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  July 12, 2017 at 7:20 pm | #

                  “The needs of the many …”

                  OTOH, my favorite ST visual is from Search for Spock – the Enterprise spinning away with the front half of the saucer destroyed.

            • SgtWadeyWilson
              SgtWadeyWilson
              July 12, 2017 at 2:47 am | #

              What about Galaxy Quest?

        • Vulcanodon
          Vulcanodon
          July 12, 2017 at 7:08 am | #

          Wrath of Kahn, The Voyage Home, and The Undiscovered Country, in no particular order. They obviously had fun making them, and they’re fun to watch.

          Kirk’s reaction to Spock swimming in the whale tank, mind-melding with the whale, is priceless.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        July 12, 2017 at 4:18 am | #

        The Mysterious Island by Jules Verne, one of VERY few good examples of the Mysterious!Dugong trope

  25. Tacos
    Tacos
    July 12, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

    So… what sorta dolphin? Like a bottle nose dolphin? Or one of those Amazon River dolphins?

    • Irredentist
      Irredentist
      July 12, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

      Hopefully not a Ganges dolphin.

    • miados
      miados
      July 12, 2017 at 11:47 am | #

      a puppy dolphin apparently.

  26. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    July 12, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

    True love is always defined by what animal they’re willing to kill to be with you.

    • Orion Fury
      Orion Fury
      July 12, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

      Tardigrades.

      • Josh Spicer
        Josh Spicer
        July 12, 2017 at 12:38 am | #

        Oh god it looks like that flatulent pirate from Treasure Planet but much less endearing.

        • Betty Anne
          Betty Anne
          July 12, 2017 at 1:46 am | #

          You take that back, because tardigrades are the most awesome living thing in the universe. Literally. :O

      • OnyxIdol
        OnyxIdol
        July 12, 2017 at 6:50 am | #

        Except you can’t kill tardigrades. Go ahead, try it. I’ll be on the sidelines, pointing and laughing.

        • 3oranges
          3oranges
          July 12, 2017 at 11:13 am | #

          People are impressed by how hard tardigrades are to kill by means that would obliterate us, like heat and cold and radiation and space.

          But they’re actually easy to kill by things we stand up to. They’re tiny. They get eaten and digested in large numbers by accident any time something is chewing up moss.

  27. StClair
    StClair
    July 12, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

    “I’m not trying to push you away. Just reminding you of the facts: I’m broken, worthless and entirely without positive qualities.”

    — Ruth Ruth’s depression

  28. Orion Fury
    Orion Fury
    July 12, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

    Challenge accepted?

    • SgtWadeyWilson
      SgtWadeyWilson
      July 12, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

      Not challenging enough?

  29. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    July 12, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

    …
    I wonder if any relationship is ever so dramatic as to be going through a hard time because someone is moving literally one block away.
    (Yes yes more complicated. I know.)

    • Pl0x
      Pl0x
      July 12, 2017 at 7:00 am | #

      Codependency yayyyy

      • Aphrodite
        Aphrodite
        July 12, 2017 at 1:10 pm | #

        Can’t codependency also be a good thing, assuming both are happy and improving each others lives, wouldn’t codependency be a source for good?

        • Sam
          Sam
          July 12, 2017 at 2:55 pm | #

          No, because at the root of codependency is putting someone else’s needs excessively above your own for a sense of purpose or self-worth e.g. ignoring that your own mental health is falling to shreds while continually supporting someone else’s; always focusing on the problems of someone else while disregarding your own. It is taking on too much responsibility for others really – which then forces them to be hyperaware of your needs and feelings in return, which can then lead to them ignoring their own as well and becoming just as dependent.

          It is by nature not healthy because it involves excessive caretaking at the expense of yourself and if the person you are caring for gets better, then you lose all sense of purpose and all sense of self-worth as your entire identity became tied into looking after them.

  30. Gojira
    Gojira
    July 12, 2017 at 12:34 am | #

    But what if you meet someone willing to snuff a whole whale?

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      July 12, 2017 at 1:18 am | #

      Don’t join his doomed crew, especially if he’s Patrick Stewart.

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 12, 2017 at 1:32 am | #

        But Picard got his “whale” in the end.
        …
        What’s this, we aren’t talking about the Star Trek movie involving the Borg and the Enterprise going back in time to the 2030s? Ignore me then.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          July 12, 2017 at 1:34 am | #

          Nope, we’re talking about the USA network miniseries that First Contact was Stewart’s audition for.

      • StClair
        StClair
        July 12, 2017 at 2:19 am | #

        Things I’ve Learned from Star Trek:

        When your captain starts quoting from Moby Dick, it’s time to find an escape pod.

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          July 12, 2017 at 4:33 am | #

          Things I’m figuring aren’t in Star Trek:

          When your captain starts quoting Billy Budd, ditto.

          • UniqueSnowflake2
            UniqueSnowflake2
            July 12, 2017 at 1:24 pm | #

            The Caine Mutiny is another bad sign.

  31. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 12, 2017 at 12:37 am | #

    Oh, huh, Willis changed puppy to dolphin.

    • Gojira
      Gojira
      July 12, 2017 at 12:39 am | #

      The puppy mafia is strong.

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 12, 2017 at 10:59 am | #

        “That’s an awfully quiet baby you got there. It would be a shame if someone were to make it cry by barking at it, capiche? Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a squirrel to ‘chase up a tree’ if you understand me.”

  32. Nicole
    Nicole
    July 12, 2017 at 12:37 am | #

    It still says puppy for me but if I view on an incognito window I get dolphin. Had to do that to check because my friend and I were having a debate about what the comic said.

  33. Samantha Johnson
    Samantha Johnson
    July 12, 2017 at 12:43 am | #

    Omg im so happy that this relationship is working. That they are actually in a more stable place and can be a good relationshipm billie iz being patient and not making it a big deal. Shes like checking on her and knows shes fragile and isnt taking ruths angry snark personally. Im rooring for them man

  34. Tyramisu
    Tyramisu
    July 12, 2017 at 12:48 am | #

    Dolphins are evil buggers and full of Heresy. They deserve all the snuffing they get.

  35. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    July 12, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

    Besides, it’s difficult to DELIBERATELY choose to love someone else. Affection isn’t that easily reporpoised.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      July 12, 2017 at 1:09 am | #

      Did you just

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        July 12, 2017 at 1:16 am | #

        ….. did you forget to dolphinish your sentence?

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          July 12, 2017 at 1:17 am | #

          Dude, that one was WEAK. 😛

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            July 12, 2017 at 1:19 am | #

            [Cetacean Needed]

            • Betty Anne
              Betty Anne
              July 12, 2017 at 1:48 am | #

              Whale, that was an A+ comeback. :3

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              July 12, 2017 at 2:09 am | #

              See, that’s better! 😀

              • MatthewTheLucky
                MatthewTheLucky
                July 12, 2017 at 2:50 am | #

                Certainly a seaperior comment.

            • Pablo360
              Pablo360
              July 12, 2017 at 8:50 am | #

              You stole that from what-if.xkcd.com

              • Reltzik
                Reltzik
                July 12, 2017 at 8:54 am | #

                Not so! If you go to that what-if in question, you’ll discover that it’s version of that pun is still there!

                • Brotato
                  Brotato
                  July 12, 2017 at 9:49 pm | #

                  You’re hilarious.

  36. Spazzbot
    Spazzbot
    July 12, 2017 at 1:06 am | #

    I just want them to be happy.

  37. SgtWadeyWilson
    SgtWadeyWilson
    July 12, 2017 at 1:10 am | #

    I think “snuff a puppy” has a better ring to it. Not entirely cool with either as an actual activity, but it has an almost poetic, rhythmic quality that seems somehow superior to “snuff a dolphin.”

    That, or I just reread it so many times when I was still like: “Did she just? Did they just? Did Willis really?” and got too used to it.

    • miados
      miados
      July 12, 2017 at 11:50 am | #

      puppy flows better than dolphin and to be honest i dont know why it got changed. especially since dolphins can be awful in so many ways i dont think people would be as sad or stressed about ending a dolphin or having one ended compared to a puppy. kind of takes a lot of the impact away from what ruth is saying in my opinion.

  38. Nightsbridge
    Nightsbridge
    July 12, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

    I can hear Sir’s words ringing in her head.

    That fucker.

    I don’t know that I can find more words than that today.

  39. Keulan
    Keulan
    July 12, 2017 at 1:23 am | #

    They’re in Indiana, where is Ruth gonna find a dolphin to kill anyway?

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 12, 2017 at 1:33 am | #

      Is there a zoo nearby with an aquatic exhibit section?

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 12, 2017 at 4:17 am | #

      They can swim up the Ohio river

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/sharks/

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        July 12, 2017 at 5:32 pm | #

        wouldn’t the sharks eat them?

    • Aphrodite
      Aphrodite
      July 12, 2017 at 1:07 pm | #

      http://www.indianapoliszoo.com/conservation-and-education/education/family-youth-experiences/dolphin-in-water-adventures

      Evidently there is. 😛

  40. Fart Captor
    Fart Captor
    July 12, 2017 at 1:31 am | #

    Don’t you see, Ruth?

    Billie’s saying you give her porpoise

    :V

    • Emperor Daniel
      Emperor Daniel
      July 12, 2017 at 1:35 am | #

      [cetacean needed]

  41. Emperor Daniel
    Emperor Daniel
    July 12, 2017 at 1:34 am | #

    Does anyone have an archived image of the “snuff a puppy” version I hear once existed? Or must it be consigned to the realm of myth, like dragons, canals on Mars, and the film of The Last Airbender?

    …no reason, why do you ask?

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      July 12, 2017 at 1:37 am | #

      There is no film in Ba Sing Se.

      • Doki
        Doki
        July 12, 2017 at 2:10 pm | #

        OMG Yumi that’s perfect

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 12, 2017 at 1:49 am | #

      Don’t you dare mention that movie ever again. Shyamalan must pay the blood price for that…

  42. Yumi
    Yumi
    July 12, 2017 at 1:36 am | #

    So, is snuffing a dolphin more socially acceptable, or just more Refuge in Audacity than snuffing a puppy?

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 12, 2017 at 1:48 am | #

      I actually think it’s both, a tank least in the US. Because dogs are damn near sacred here. And have been for quite a while. Hell, during the Revolutionary War George Washington returned General Howe’s lost dog when it came into his possession. That’s how much most people in the US (and the British Isles as well) love dogs.

      • Ed Rhodes
        Ed Rhodes
        July 12, 2017 at 8:05 pm | #

        They actually made a Pedigree dog food commercial over that;

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3QiBLndU-k

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      July 12, 2017 at 6:28 am | #

      For some reason, people (at least in America) feel disproportionately offended when someone mentions harming a dog. I may get hate for this, but I’ve beaten the absolute shit out of a dog, in the past. Of course, it was an actual threat to me…

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 12, 2017 at 7:43 am | #

        Fuck, there was more to this, but now I forgot why I even brought it up.

      • Sam
        Sam
        July 12, 2017 at 1:43 pm | #

        If it was actually attacking you/being an actual threat, I’d say that’s not likely to earn you hate. There is a difference between a dog existing and you beating it up for no reason and you defending yourself from an actual dog attack.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          July 12, 2017 at 2:40 pm | #

          That’s also why the meme is usually specifically “puppies”, not “dogs”.

          Dogs can be threatening. Puppies are cute and harmless.

  43. Danni
    Danni
    July 12, 2017 at 1:54 am | #

    is this paradoxically the healthiest relationship in doa?

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      July 12, 2017 at 1:59 am | #

      I can’t remember either of them mentioning dinosaurs even once

      • SgtWadeyWilson
        SgtWadeyWilson
        July 12, 2017 at 2:57 am | #

        Paradox averted by a future pair-of-docs? I think I’ve seen this time travel movie before…

    • Heavensrun
      Heavensrun
      July 12, 2017 at 2:05 am | #

      The healthiest relationship is probably Dina and Becky, though Dotty X Walky is (annoyingly) pretty stable and healthy. Jacob and Raidah are also doing fine for the moment.

  44. Heavensrun
    Heavensrun
    July 12, 2017 at 2:02 am | #

    The following morning, Billie found a dolphin carcass strewn across her bed as if left behind by a giant cat.

  45. Smiling Cat
    Smiling Cat
    July 12, 2017 at 2:39 am | #

    Eh, Dolphins are assholes. Fuck dolphins.

  46. MissFortune
    MissFortune
    July 12, 2017 at 2:40 am | #

    Noooooo, Willis! “Snuff a puppy” has such wonderful assonance! Assonance, I say!

    • Arian
      Arian
      July 12, 2017 at 3:23 am | #

      Don’t ask her what an assy-thingummy is. She’s only longing to be asked. Say nothing and perhaps she’ll go away.

      • NickG
        NickG
        July 12, 2017 at 9:13 am | #

        A Narnia joke that doesn’t involve Aslan, excellent.

    • Flakky
      Flakky
      July 12, 2017 at 5:24 am | #

      That would remind them of Mary though.

  47. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    July 12, 2017 at 3:46 am | #

    Snuffing a dolphin? What porpoise would that serve?

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 12, 2017 at 4:15 am | #

      Wow, that’s a flippperant pun if I ever heard one.

      …You know, as in “flippant”, but with a reference to “Flipper”, the famous fictional dolphin who used to save Timmy when he fell down into a well…

      FINE, not my best pun.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        July 13, 2017 at 5:26 am | #

        Not ONE pedant offering up that “Timmy in the well” comes from Lassie OR that it was actually NOT used in Lassie?

        I’m disappointed in you guys… or possibly in favour of you not taking easy baits like that. 🙂

  48. C.
    C.
    July 12, 2017 at 4:46 am | #

    What was the original hovertext before the change to dolphin?

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      July 12, 2017 at 7:02 am | #

      Same, but with “puppy” in place of “dolphin”.

  49. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    July 12, 2017 at 4:54 am | #

    Wooh double Billie release today.

  50. Aeron
    Aeron
    July 12, 2017 at 5:18 am | #

    And just like that, Dumbing of Age loses its Dolphin Safe rating.

  51. Flakky
    Flakky
    July 12, 2017 at 5:22 am | #

    Moving across the street? I hope their relationship can handle it. You know what they say, “short-to-medium-distance” kills relationships.

    What do you mean, nobody says that?

    • blergh
      blergh
      July 12, 2017 at 9:06 am | #

      Eh, Billie seems to know that, but Ruth’s got her depression and Sir’s last comments to her ringing in her head.

      • Doki
        Doki
        July 12, 2017 at 2:12 pm | #

        And Rachel’s. :C

  52. Tualha
    Tualha
    July 12, 2017 at 6:13 am | #

    Trying to remember whether either of these two has ever told the other “I love you.” I don’t remember them doing so.

    I really wish they would.

    • OnyxIdol
      OnyxIdol
      July 12, 2017 at 6:55 am | #

      They did, not too long ago.

    • Neeks
      Neeks
      July 12, 2017 at 6:57 am | #

      They both have. I don’t have links for you, but it’s a thing.

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 12, 2017 at 1:26 pm | #

      They did a while back.

    • Doki
      Doki
      July 12, 2017 at 2:13 pm | #

      Here you go!

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/dynamite/

      • Tualha
        Tualha
        July 12, 2017 at 6:09 pm | #

        I’d forgotten. How could I have forgotten? Ruth looks so terribly vulnerable in panel 3.

        Thanks to everyone 🙂

  53. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    July 12, 2017 at 6:19 am | #

    I don’t understand why “puppy” was changed to “dolphin”. Are puppies suddenly a protected group, or something?

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      July 12, 2017 at 6:31 am | #

      The thought occurs that Willis may be intentionally attempting to create artificial controversy from people advocating for violence against dogs?

    • John
      John
      July 12, 2017 at 10:33 am | #

      “Dolphin” is approximately 87% funnier.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 12, 2017 at 11:52 am | #

        Too bad it says “puppy” again. I have evidence.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          July 12, 2017 at 11:57 am | #

          …but when I save the image, it’s “dolphin” on that file. But my web page shows “puppy”?

          • Delicious Taffy
            Delicious Taffy
            July 12, 2017 at 12:00 pm | #

            You jackin’ my meme?

            • Sam
              Sam
              July 12, 2017 at 1:24 pm | #

              Is it a puppy? Is it a dolphin? IS IT A PHONE?

              NO, IT’S A KNIFE! RUN FOR IT!

              • Remmington Steele
                Remmington Steele
                July 12, 2017 at 3:09 pm | #

                IT’S A PHOFE!

                • SgtWadeyWilson
                  SgtWadeyWilson
                  July 13, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

                  Dolphone.

  54. LWS
    LWS
    July 12, 2017 at 6:47 am | #

    That would be hard to pull off without the rest of the pod coming to their defense.

  55. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    July 12, 2017 at 7:00 am | #

    Oh, “puppy” is now “dolphin”. What a peculiar change; still funny.

    • Aphrodite
      Aphrodite
      July 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm | #

      Mary is the puppy killer…thought this was established all ready.

  56. Bliisk
    Bliisk
    July 12, 2017 at 7:52 am | #

    I was up to early 2015 a few days ago and i caught up to the current strip gosh darn-it!

  57. Farmer_10
    Farmer_10
    July 12, 2017 at 10:08 am | #

    Killing a dolphin’s setting the bar pretty low. Dolphins are the worst.

    • Gasp
      Gasp
      July 12, 2017 at 1:55 pm | #

      originally it was a puppy, I guess he thought that was too extreme

  58. Pegaz
    Pegaz
    July 12, 2017 at 11:09 am | #

    Ruth is the exact figure of my ex-partner of 17 years; build, hair, glasses, humor, depression, suicide attempts and all. It’s been 7 years since we have parted our ways and both got new lives.

    My heart still bleeds when I read Ruth’s story.

  59. Benwhoski
    Benwhoski
    July 12, 2017 at 11:10 am | #

    On the one hand, I do find it a little weird how Ruth acts like they’re moving her to another continent as opposed to “somewhere else on the same campus”, but on the other hand I know first-hand how depression can warp how you think about just about everything, and we’ve seen how her Grandfather fucks with her mind.

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 12, 2017 at 1:21 pm | #

      Her grandfather screwing with her mind is likely why she is thinking this. He said Billie would forget her when she moves. Was that logical? No, it isn’t like she is moving very far, but that wasn’t the point; he got Ruth hyperaware of her relationship and how little she feels she offers Billie which was another way to make her feel bad and powerless and like a burden.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        July 12, 2017 at 2:55 pm | #

        Yup, picking at the insecurities so you do the hard work of destroying yourself.

  60. rectilinearpropagation
    rectilinearpropagation
    July 12, 2017 at 12:33 pm | #

    I only require a romantic partner be willing to kill bugs for me. (Getting rid of bigger pests like mice are a huge plus but I think it’s reasonable to get professionals at that point.)

    • Aphrodite
      Aphrodite
      July 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm | #

      Nonsense!
      Get a big tent to cover your house then make some sort of nerve gas. (Mustard gas for instants)

      Not like you would go to jail for pest control or anything… 😛

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      July 12, 2017 at 2:36 pm | #

      mice are what cats are for.

      Not so good for romantic partners though.

  61. Aphrodite
    Aphrodite
    July 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm | #

    I’m confused, is there anything actually stooping Billie from just moving in with Ruth while officially living somewhere else?

    • Eldritch Gentleman
      Eldritch Gentleman
      July 12, 2017 at 1:28 pm | #

      Mary telling on them to the management?

      • Aphrodite
        Aphrodite
        July 12, 2017 at 1:50 pm | #

        But Billie won’t be under Ruths jurisdiction ergo no conflict of interest.

        • Eldritch Gentleman
          Eldritch Gentleman
          July 12, 2017 at 2:00 pm | #

          What I mean is a non-resident living at the dorm. Kind of like the issue they had with Becky squatting in Billie’s room. Though probably less problematic since she Does attend this school.

          • MatthewTheLucky
            MatthewTheLucky
            July 12, 2017 at 2:39 pm | #

            That’s just because Becky wasn’t paying for a room. The college won’t care where Billie sleeps so long as she’s paying.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              July 12, 2017 at 2:43 pm | #

              I think officially the policy limiting overnight guests applies to people from another dorm as well. If it’s anything like my old school, it’s likely honored more in the breach.
              It’s likely in place mostly so they’ve got something to point at when a roommate complains about suddenly living in a triple. Doesn’t mean it can’t be abused by someone like Mary though.

              • Cerberus
                Cerberus
                July 12, 2017 at 2:54 pm | #

                Wouldn’t that require a complaint from the roommate though? And Ruth lives in a single so there’s no roommate to complain. Plus Pudding Cup basically gave the wink wink nudge nudge for them moving right back in with each other again.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  July 12, 2017 at 7:23 pm | #

                  Well, I doubt the actual rule says “Only if a roommate complains”, it’s just that they’re the most likely to have a problem with it.
                  So when Mary raises a fuss…
                  Or maybe even Rachel?

  62. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    July 12, 2017 at 3:04 pm | #

    Holding on with the fingernails of both hands, trying not to drop into the abyss. But at least she’s holding on. And some days that’s enough.

    “sir” grampus’s bullshit has strong ties over her mind and there’s little doubt she is not replaying his message over and over again in her head, her depression making it seem as if a truth.

    And Billie, doing all she can to reassure her girlfriend and defeat that voice that can be louder than anything as often as she can in as many ways she can.

    And it’s working. Ruth is sitting up in that last panel. Having been in that state, I know how hard it can be to get to “sitting up”. And she’s arguing, which means she’s hearing Billie’s words through her depression.

    Their origins are horrible, but I can’t help rooting for them here because I’ve been on both sides of this situation so many times. I was in the Billie position last night.

    And we all want our partners to be well and survive that violent bully that is depression and its close friend and known associate PTSD.

    • Halpful
      Halpful
      July 12, 2017 at 4:31 pm | #

      *agos*

      yeah, sitting up… walking… focusing enough to see/hear… amazing how exhausting they can be at times.

      I don’t wanna be depressed 🙁 I thought I was done with this shit.
      I’m bored and I don’t wanna do anything and everything feels all twisty and wrong, and knowing that the twisty feeling might be ocd only makes it suck more. stupid NVoice keeps beating me up about how there is no cure and I’m just supposed to fight against it 24/7 forever or else I’m a Bad Person and none of that makes any sense so why am I believing it? *sigh*

      it keeps tricking me with the “everything will feel horrible forever” myth. despite all evidence to the contrary. because depression. but I can’t seem to remember the way out. it seems pretty determined to make me feel miserable regardles., especially if I’m going in the right direction. so maybe pay attention to what pisses it off… like, why am I so convinced I can’t go to the gym? fucking hate the stupid gym and its stupid exercise. 😛 there’s always Reasons I can’t go, but they’re suspiciously vague and fluid. fuck it. maybe I’ll actually go today and find out how much BS that is.

      I don’t wanna fight, but I’m sure as hell not letting NVoice win 😛

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        July 12, 2017 at 5:23 pm | #

        *supportive hug* You will win against the NVoice! I believe in you!

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          July 12, 2017 at 7:24 pm | #

          And one of those supportive hugs for you and your partner.

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 12, 2017 at 10:18 pm | #

        *hugs*

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 12, 2017 at 4:33 pm | #

      *hugs*
      I hope you and your partner are ok, and that your partner is in a better headspace now. I’ve been in the Billie role before as well, and for me it sucks more than when I’m the one depressed. Because at least when I’m depressed I know strategies that help me cope with it. But when someone else is depressed it feels like I’m powerless to help and I get scared for said person.
      …
      But in response to your comments about depression, it reminds me of college when I wasn’t with my best friends anymore. Coupled with four of the seven of them dying within the past three years, and my preexisting depression (thanks overbearing perfectionist dad) is way worse. Clinging by fingernails is a good way to put it. Currently the anniversary of one of the deaths and I’m barely even functioning enough to force myself to interact with the comments, if only because that will kick start my actually doing things instinct and will keep me from laying in bed all day.

      • Halpful
        Halpful
        July 12, 2017 at 5:21 pm | #

        *hugs*
        I made it to the gym and actually had good feelings! 🙂 All I was hoping for was less badness.

        Hope your day sucks less too.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        July 12, 2017 at 5:24 pm | #

        *supportive hug* I’ve got your back if you need it. And yeah, they seem better today. Yesterday was just super rough for them.

        • Rukduk
          Rukduk
          July 12, 2017 at 10:20 pm | #

          If it makes your partner feel better, feel free to let them know that a random Internet stranger who only knows that they are your partner offers them all the empathy, support, and sympathy possible.
          …
          Ok, I’m not sure that sentence is grammatically correct.

  63. Storel
    Storel
    July 12, 2017 at 4:57 pm | #

    “If they’re not willing to kill a dolphin for me, then no deal.”

    That’s right, Billie, stick to your standards!

  64. ATN
    ATN
    July 12, 2017 at 5:36 pm | #

    Ah, dolphins. The rapists of the seas.

    • iforgetwhatiputhere
      iforgetwhatiputhere
      July 13, 2017 at 3:19 pm | #

      Exactly! I would rate killing a dolphin pretty low on the “crazy murder love” scale on that basis…

  65. Bill M.
    Bill M.
    July 12, 2017 at 11:38 pm | #

    And so, as it squeaks out its final squeak, it translates as “So long, and thanks for all the fish”

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