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by David M Willis on June 24, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - The 'Do' List
└ Tags: danny, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    June 24, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    NOPE, HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE

    or Transformer Knight

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      June 24, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      damn it Willis, you’re not gonna resolve this cliffhanger for like two years, are you T_T

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        June 24, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

        Worse.

        It’s going to be two COMIC years.

        • inqntrol
          inqntrol
          June 24, 2017 at 12:49 am | #

          So twenty years in real life?

          • Doctor_Who
            Doctor_Who
            June 24, 2017 at 1:15 am | #

            One million years dungeon!

            • Clif
              Clif
              June 24, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

              Eat at Arby’s.

          • Delicious Taffy
            Delicious Taffy
            June 24, 2017 at 1:18 am | #

            If several time skips happen, sure.

          • John
            John
            June 24, 2017 at 2:17 am | #

            More like a century. A DoA week per real-time year is pretty typical. Though I think they’ve been slowing down.

            • Reltzik
              Reltzik
              June 24, 2017 at 3:52 am | #

              Exactly! Exponential decay! A century is what we’re looking at AT THE PRESENT SPEED. But because it’s slowing down, it will take far longer than that.

              • Reltzik
                Reltzik
                June 24, 2017 at 3:53 am | #

                ….. at least I HOPE it’s exponential decay. If it’s a dampening thing, it might just stop and we’ll NEVER get there.

                At least with exponential decay, while we’ll still never get there, at least we won’t stop either.

                • Chris Phoenix
                  Chris Phoenix
                  June 24, 2017 at 5:47 pm | #

                  Actually, with exponential decay you _will_ eventually get there. The first week takes 2 years. The second week takes 4 years. The 3rd week takes 8 years… every week takes some finite number of years.

                  Now, unfortunately, that means your statement used hyperbole. And a hyperbola will, indeed, never get there.

                • Reltzik
                  Reltzik
                  June 24, 2017 at 7:01 pm | #

                  ….. huh. I was taking it to mean that the first year of real time corresponded to one week of comic time, the second year of real time corresponded to half a week of comic time, etc.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  June 24, 2017 at 7:50 pm | #

                  You might not.
                  2 years is 104 weeks. Following that exponential decay it would take 2^104 years ~ 2e31 years. (Actually that’s not quite right – that’s just how long the last week takes. But all the previous weeks together take less time than that, so it really doesn’t change the analysis much.)
                  That’s obviously long past Willis’s (or our) expected lifespans. It’s long past the Sun’s expected lifetime. It’s far longer than the current age of the universe.
                  Long enough for stellar formation to cease and stars to either have burnt out or fallen into black holes.

                  It is however not long enough for a majority of nucleons in the universe to decay, so I guess that’s something.

                  (All according to my casual knowledge of modern astrophysics and a bit of Googling. Mostly I just like big numbers and exponential functions. )

                • MrSpkr
                  MrSpkr
                  June 25, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

                  Oh, so we will finally get there around the same time as the heat death of the universe.

          • Marsh Maryrose
            Marsh Maryrose
            June 24, 2017 at 12:54 pm | #

            The last time I did the math:

            1 comic year = 61.75 real-world years

            So unless the Singularity occurs, plan on having yourself frozen and then revived sometime in 2040.

            • Marsh Maryrose
              Marsh Maryrose
              June 24, 2017 at 1:57 pm | #

              Er, 2140. By 2040 we’ll only be about four more months in-comic.

      • iforgetwhatiputhere
        iforgetwhatiputhere
        June 24, 2017 at 1:50 am | #

        6 volumes later, it turns out they were all in purgatory all along

        • miados
          miados
          June 24, 2017 at 2:38 am | #

          or all just tales of someone looking in a snowglobe.

        • CoffeeStained
          CoffeeStained
          June 24, 2017 at 11:25 am | #

          “It was all a dream? No more peanut butter pickle pizza before bedtime anymore.”

      • IllogicalBobcat
        IllogicalBobcat
        June 24, 2017 at 8:22 pm | #

        I’d put it off as long as possible, people will be upset when Amber’s in jail awaiting trial. You’re generally not allowed to use a weapon taken from an assailant against said assailant.

        • Victor
          Victor
          June 24, 2017 at 9:01 pm | #

          You are if the assailant is still attempting to attack you. You’re at risk of having the weapon taken back.

    • TamiDOA
      TamiDOA
      June 24, 2017 at 12:46 am | #

      So Amber, Ethan, Dorothy AND Ryan are camped out in line to get tickets and Joyce/Danny asked them to pickup extras for them?

  2. Dara
    Dara
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    Aaaaand now we’re looping back around.

    • Clif
      Clif
      June 24, 2017 at 1:23 am | #

      There’s the shoe that was waiting to drop.

  3. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    Well shit

    • Knuf Wons
      Knuf Wons
      June 24, 2017 at 7:35 am | #

      Water hole defecation

  4. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    GASP! Someone littered

    • GuruBuckaroo
      GuruBuckaroo
      June 24, 2017 at 12:49 am | #

      Someone call Amazi-gi… shit.

      • Orion Fury
        Orion Fury
        June 24, 2017 at 1:12 am | #

        I think it’d be safer than calling Amber, ‘specially if spiders are involved.

  5. TheAnonymousGuy
    TheAnonymousGuy
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    1 joyce don’t hate yourself

    2 is that tape still there from ambers thing?

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      June 24, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

      I mean, see: hovertext

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      June 24, 2017 at 9:26 am | #

      Probably? It’s been a couple weeks since Joyce’s thing, and that didn’t happen on the stairs.

  6. fillerusername
    fillerusername
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    Wow, so people do know…

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      June 24, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

      They don’t know the REAL truth. All they have is the police line.

      ….

      *flees for dear punning life*

      • zoelogical
        zoelogical
        June 24, 2017 at 1:10 am | #

        YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH

        • Flakky
          Flakky
          June 24, 2017 at 5:36 am | #

          Depends… Is it delivered by Mike?

        • Eldritch Gentleman
          Eldritch Gentleman
          June 24, 2017 at 5:37 am | #

          Of course you can’t. Removing the police tape is illegal.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        June 24, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

        Something about Joyce holding a woman’s hand on tape.

    • miados
      miados
      June 24, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

      Well it happened late at night and depending on how soon this is after and if the police are talking to people it might not be well known beyond maybe rumors.

      • Solenoid
        Solenoid
        June 24, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

        three days later

  7. Yumi
    Yumi
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    NOISES

  8. Shiro
    Shiro
    June 24, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    FINALLY! Do we get satisfaction tomorrow, maybe, hopefully? *crosses fingers*

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      June 24, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Oh, you sweet summer child…. No. We will not.

      • bryy
        bryy
        June 24, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

        It’ll take probably a month at most.

        • Woobie
          Woobie
          June 24, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

          Comic month?

          • Clif
            Clif
            June 24, 2017 at 1:29 am | #

            Satisfaction will not be achieved in a month. Either timeline. The question you have to ask yourself is do you really want to know,

            • Kinoko
              Kinoko
              June 24, 2017 at 8:47 pm | #

              “Now, you’re looking for the secret, but you won’t find it, because of course, you’re not really looking. You don’t really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.”

              *cue like 20 drowned Ryan corpses in glass cases* 😛

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        June 24, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

        Dammit! You and me, Willis! A duel! I DEMAND SATISFACTION.

        …..

        *totally setting himself up there*

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          June 24, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

          This caused “Ten Duel Commandments” to start playing in my head.

          • ditrysia
            ditrysia
            June 24, 2017 at 3:42 pm | #

            Same

        • miados
          miados
          June 24, 2017 at 12:43 am | #

          I drew exodia. nice try though.

          • Orion Fury
            Orion Fury
            June 24, 2017 at 1:13 am | #

            I thought that was impossible.

            • Delicious Taffy
              Delicious Taffy
              June 24, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

              Only if you don’t have cursed pharaoh gold around your neck.

              • Orion Fury
                Orion Fury
                June 24, 2017 at 1:25 am | #

                Stupid 3D puzzle…

            • MatthewTheLucky
              MatthewTheLucky
              June 24, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

              Aaaah! Exodia! No one’s ever been able to draw him!

              • Delicious Taffy
                Delicious Taffy
                June 24, 2017 at 1:40 am | #

                He’s one of the most powerful cards in Duel Monsters!

              • Yumi
                Yumi
                June 24, 2017 at 1:47 am | #

                Really? Is that because it’s so rare?

                • miados
                  miados
                  June 24, 2017 at 1:50 am | #

                  no its because you have to have all 5 pieces of him in your hand at the same time and you can only have one of each piece in a deck. its an auto win impact to the came. plus that limits options if three of your six cards are pieces it means you have 3 less options to play.

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  June 24, 2017 at 1:52 am | #

                  Hi.
                  This was a Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged series reference.

                • miados
                  miados
                  June 24, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

                  oh i dont know the abriged beyond a few meme type things.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      June 24, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

      Patreon is only $5 a month if you can afford that~

      • Shiro
        Shiro
        June 24, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

        But then we’re right back to the same situation tomorrow!

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          June 24, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

          Well, yeah, but you know what happens tomorrow. 😛

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            June 24, 2017 at 9:27 am | #

            What is today, but yesterday’s tomorrow?

    • jimbotherisenclown
      jimbotherisenclown
      June 24, 2017 at 2:12 am | #

      Subscribe to the Patreon and find out!

  9. butting
    butting
    June 24, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    Who will Amazi-Girl the litterers if Amazi-Girl is gone?

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      June 24, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Sadly, Amazi-Girl was the litterer this time. She’s gonna have to do like, HOURS of community service to make up for just leaving that mangled corpse on the stoop

      • butting
        butting
        June 24, 2017 at 12:36 am | #

        I’d be kinda okay with her leaving a few lightly-battered bros around the place pour encourager les autres

        just, y’know, so long as it was part of a properly-supervised course of treatment?

      • Showler
        Showler
        June 24, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

        Amazi-girl wasn’t there. Unfortunately.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      June 24, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

      Given that the litterers are the police, it’s probably best if no one Amazi-Girls them.

      Also, way to verb the noun.

      • Woobie
        Woobie
        June 24, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

        Verbing weirds nouns.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          June 24, 2017 at 3:48 am | #

          What verbing does to adjectives is even stranger.

          …..

          ….. on reflection, I don’t even WANT to know what verbing does to adverbs.

          • Knuf Wons
            Knuf Wons
            June 24, 2017 at 7:38 am | #

            I will quickly that experience then!

            • Clif
              Clif
              June 24, 2017 at 8:27 am | #

              Also the weirding of verbed nouns is easily reversed by the process of renounification.

              • Reltzik
                Reltzik
                June 24, 2017 at 9:00 am | #

                I renounce your renounification!

            • Reltzik
              Reltzik
              June 24, 2017 at 8:59 am | #

              That doesn’t count. That’s just verbing an adverbed adjective.

              • Sensei Le Roof
                Sensei Le Roof
                June 24, 2017 at 10:19 am | #

                Did you accidentally something?

                • Reltzik
                  Reltzik
                  June 24, 2017 at 8:19 pm | #

                  THAT, in turn, was a verbed noun preceded by an adverbed adjectived noun.

    • Marianne
      Marianne
      June 24, 2017 at 3:20 am | #

      Lucy becomes Amazi-girl, of course. And, you know, actually relevant to this comic.

    • Eldritch Gentleman
      Eldritch Gentleman
      June 24, 2017 at 6:19 am | #

      It will be Nostromo all over again. Without Kondrad Kur… I mean without Amazi-girl the whole campus will be reduced to a lawless hellscape!

  10. Fart Captor
    Fart Captor
    June 24, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    It turns out, Amber can’t run very fast while smacking her ass and duckfacing at the police :/

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      June 24, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

      “Cops” footage or it didn’t happen.

  11. Sporky
    Sporky
    June 24, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    Well this is foreboding as shit

  12. Ferdinand Rosenthal
    Ferdinand Rosenthal
    June 24, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Ethan? Why Ethan?

    • LynziGraye
      LynziGraye
      June 24, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

      I figured it was because of his status as Amber’s bestie, but Willis surprises me regularly. I reserve the right to be wrong!

      • Fart Captor
        Fart Captor
        June 24, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

        That was my read as well. She’s asking about him either because he might be in a position to know what’s going on with Amber, or because she knows they’re really close and is worried about him as well. Or both.

    • TheAnonymousGuy
      TheAnonymousGuy
      June 24, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

      could he have come along and intervened?

      • fillerusername
        fillerusername
        June 24, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

        I doubt it. I’m assuming that whatever went down all they really know is that it involved Amber and knowing Ethan is Amber’s best friend she probably thinks he knows something.

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        June 24, 2017 at 7:30 am | #

        Or maybe he helped hide the body or something along those lines.

    • Tomas
      Tomas
      June 24, 2017 at 12:34 am | #

      I’m guessing Ethan is Amber’s emergency contact. And Danny probably HAS seen Ethan; they share Amber’s secret. He’s just playing dumb for her sake.

      • Flakky
        Flakky
        June 24, 2017 at 5:43 am | #

        Danny and Ethan are probably going to feel even more guilty about any possible shenanigans.

        Though with Amber’s luck, she’ll be catatonic or otherwise away exactly till the day Ethan and Danny tie the knot.

    • zoelogical
      zoelogical
      June 24, 2017 at 1:04 am | #

      ethan is super close to amber. joyce and danny are both close to ethan and dorothy, but joyce isn’t close to amber. so i guess i think that’s why it makes sense for joyce to ask after ethan

      EVEN IF I’M REALLY FREAKING CURIOUS ABOUT AMBER

    • CJ
      CJ
      June 24, 2017 at 4:25 am | #

      Didn’t she go with Ethan to that Gay Pizza thing and ran into Danny?

    • Grethelwveir
      Grethelwveir
      June 24, 2017 at 6:18 am | #

      Ethan was kind of Joyce’s unofficial escort around campus for bad days even after they broke up. He makes her feel safe because a) he’s big (tall and broad), and b) her brain registers him as “not even remotely a risk factor” due to his sexuality. Thinking about it, she was probably going to go someplace, got a few steps out the door, and just- couldn’t. She then likely contacted him for help, since, I think he’s the only one (except maybe Dorothy) who knows about this specific manifestation of her trauma. And she was just waiting for him when the list got leaked.

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        June 24, 2017 at 7:40 am | #

        It makes a horrifying amount of sense considering that her personal bogeyman CAME to the Campus. She is sitting in the very spot where he attacked Amber and Dotty.

        • Kinoko
          Kinoko
          June 24, 2017 at 9:22 pm | #

          Also, since Dorothy saw what went down, she probably told Joyce. Even if Joyce doesn’t know Amber (sans mask) very well, she has a lot of ties to this situation. Ryan was after Dorothy AND Joyce, and Amber intervened. Joyce also knows that Amber is Ethan’s best friend.

  13. TimeLoss
    TimeLoss
    June 24, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    I wonder, is Joyce looking at her hand in reference to the glass smashing on Ryan’s face back in Book 1? Or could it be that she somehow got involved in the events that happened three days ago?

    • Mandy
      Mandy
      June 24, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

      I kind of thought it was because it looks like she’s finally taken off her wrist brace.

      • TimeLoss
        TimeLoss
        June 24, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

        Oh yes, that too. Could be she is remembering how Amazi-Girl saved Becky and she punched Toedad. The “good” Amazi-Girl and not whatever horror Amber did three days ago.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          June 24, 2017 at 12:59 am | #

          The way she’s looking at her palm leads me to believe she’s thinking about the cuts she got on her hand when she slashed Ryan’s stupid face up

          • miados
            miados
            June 24, 2017 at 1:05 am | #

            or taking off the wrist guard thing was like getting rid of a crutch (her ability to be out by herself being the limp) and wondering if maybe she really is or isnt ready.

    • Cephalo the Pod
      Cephalo the Pod
      June 24, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

      I’m pretty sure it’s another glass-smashing reference. She’s done it before.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      June 24, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

      That’s her trauma hand, due to both the glass-smashing AND the Toedad smashing. She does that everytime she’s angsty and/or anxious.

    • John
      John
      June 24, 2017 at 2:39 am | #

      She does that when she’s feeling angsty. She’s developed the mannerism since the face-glass incident. I’ve got five different incidences of it marked in my timeline, and I’m pretty sure I don’t have them all (I don’t have this one, at least). It didn’t occur to me to record them until well after the fact, and I haven’t been back through to do a comprehensive survey of it, because some of the ads have been making the site damn near unusable for me for months now. (This is also part of the reason the timeline in general is months behind.)

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        June 24, 2017 at 9:32 am | #

        Try using a private/incognito browser window for archive research. That should ignore existing cookies and give you the same generic ads any new reader will see.

        • Time Sage
          Time Sage
          June 24, 2017 at 2:58 pm | #

          Or you know, adblock

  14. Hellespont
    Hellespont
    June 24, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Doink doink

  15. Nono
    Nono
    June 24, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Couldn’t Joyce ask Jacob? They are roommates after all.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      June 24, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

      She probably could, but Danny’s right there

      • Sensei Le Roof
        Sensei Le Roof
        June 24, 2017 at 10:23 am | #

        Does it really matter where Danny’s right?

  16. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    June 24, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    *is struck by huge mood whiplash*

    honestly I was hoping we wouldn’t be able to see the aftermath, because I want closure but I know this is going to screw everyone and everything up, because I think we just had a serious shift to the character dynamic, especially between everyone and Amber. ‹.‹

    • Ivanka the Terrible
      Ivanka the Terrible
      June 25, 2017 at 3:03 pm | #

      Technically it could be played for comedy!

      I mean, Amber is probably being arrested for vigilantism, but NOT the amazi-girl thing… the posting a random guy’s photo and trying to start a pitchfork mob to go after him instead of reporting it to the police thing, which is also illegal for different reasons and will depending on the state massively complicated claiming self-defense or negate it entirely on the hilariously-named “fightin’ words” principle!

      Maybe it’ll be played as a comical misunderstanding and it’ll end in the police chasing her and Joe through various doors in a long hallway set parallel to the camera while yakkety-sax plays. It will never be explained how Joe got into the scene, but she’ll pause briefly to say “don’t rate people, Joe” before they switch and accidentally chase the police through a couple doors for a change.

      (Disclaimer: pretty definitely not. BUT MAYBE.)

      • Joe Covenant
        Joe Covenant
        June 26, 2017 at 5:08 am | #

        It could also be flipped…

        “This churchy girl stuck a glass in my face…”

        “And why didn’t you report this? I was afraid for my life. One of her friends hit me in the head with a baseball bat…”

        Two main characters go to jail.
        (Can’t claim self-defence… no proof! But there are a LOT of witnesses to Ryan ‘being attacked’.)

        N.B. All the above written without checking the archive! 🙂

  17. MM
    MM
    June 24, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    Oh, man, those are some scared eyebrows in Panel 2.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      June 24, 2017 at 4:03 am | #

      Indeed. Concerned, troubled eyebrows.

  18. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    June 24, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    Ethan?

    How’s Ethan involved?

    Is he just the way of contacting Amber? Did he stumble into the fight and things really went south?

    ….

    Also, idiot me is JUST REALIZING that there might be a reason that Joyce was extra-mad about Joe’s ranking of Dorothy yesterday.

    • fillerusername
      fillerusername
      June 24, 2017 at 12:27 am | #

      I’m guessing she just assumes Ethan might have the most secondhand information considering he’s Amber’s best friend. She probably assumes if Amber is in touch with anyone on campus it would be Ethan.

      • miados
        miados
        June 24, 2017 at 11:37 am | #

        or well he is there why not ask while she is at it. or maybe she is asking everyone as they leave the building?

  19. Lingo
    Lingo
    June 24, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    ETHAN? What about Ethan?!? What have you done with our precious Ethan?!?

    • miados
      miados
      June 24, 2017 at 11:41 am | #

      depending on the events it might be that he has been freaking out over what happened to his best friend.

  20. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    June 24, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    Well, shit. The cops got involved. That means Amber might be in trouble, depending on scarboy’s father’s connections and or how willing the cops were to believe Amber and Dorothy. And is Ethan being brought in as a character witness or something. Shit shit shit shit.

    • Woobie
      Woobie
      June 24, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

      Amber nor Dorothy is obliged to contact he police.
      Not saying that would be the best way to handle it.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        June 24, 2017 at 10:09 am | #

        Not obliged perhaps, possibly depending on exactly what went down, but given that the police are involved they will definitely want to talk to both Amber and Dorothy – as witnesses or persons of interest.

        At some point, they really will be obliged to talk to the police. The longer they avoid it, if they have been doing so, the worse it’s likely to be.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          June 24, 2017 at 11:26 am | #

          Someone was bound to find the blood stain and tiny pieces that used to be not-Ryan eventually.

          This sounds like the cold open to a police-procedural written by Donald P. Bellisario…

        • Victor
          Victor
          June 24, 2017 at 9:06 pm | #

          You are never obligated to talk to the police. There are times when it may be in your best interest to do so, but it’s generally advisable to have your attorney present.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            June 24, 2017 at 11:44 pm | #

            True. Well, there are cases, but they’re few and far between.

            You are however, in some circumstances, obligated to be in contact with the police. Like when they come to question you about the stabbed rapist and the bloody knife in your hand. Now, it might be that all you tell them is “I’d like to speak with my lawyer”, but they’re not just going to leave you alone. Which is all I really meant.

    • miados
      miados
      June 24, 2017 at 11:44 am | #

      they not ryan died than probably a good idea to report the specifics to the police so its self defense and not something of a murder investigation. if ryans not dead and they dont report it he could report it as an assault which if they seem like they were trying to hide it makes it seem like his side is the right side to many peoples eyes.

      just my thought on it.

    • Ivanka the Terrible
      Ivanka the Terrible
      June 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm | #

      The main complication in real life is posting the picture and trying to incite a mob to go after the guy. That’s… actually how vigilantism _usually_ looks, she sort of graduated from comic-book vigilante to real-life felon with that move.

      So it’s not so much a matter of the guy getting away with things (he most definitely will not, not with witnesses who can spot him in a lineup etc). It’s a question of how real Willis is going to play it on Amber getting away with kicking his ass… even on the light end, her illegal transgression against him might be considered enough of a threat to be ‘starting the fight’ and invalidate her claim of self-defense. On the _bad_ end… federal wire fraud and conspiracy to commit any number of things, possibly terrorism if the feds are feeling railroad-ey or pondering the guy being a congressional aide.

      (I forget if Amber was the one who posted the picture or just involved in spreading it, but either way this applies. You don’t really get to start your own manhunts… from the perspective of the feds, every single such group _thinks_ they’re after a rapist or whatever but 99% of the time in history it’s actually been a lynch mob going after random minorities or unrelated people.)

    • Joe Covenant
      Joe Covenant
      June 26, 2017 at 5:10 am | #

      Amber could also be wrapped up in a nice white coat in a hospital and Ethan is trying to reach her. 🙁

  21. lia47
    lia47
    June 24, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    “””overtly””””””””””

  22. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    June 24, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

    Used to be so natural to talk about forever
    “Used to be”‘s don’t count anymore
    They just lay on the floor till we sweep them away…

  23. Zaidyer
    Zaidyer
    June 24, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

    Ding dong, the demon’s dead! Everybody dance!

  24. Emperor Norton II
    Emperor Norton II
    June 24, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

    OK, so from one heavy story-line to another…

    One, for those wondering a bit here, Ethan is probably hiding Amber, and by extension himself. Joyce obviously knows what happened that night, so even if nobody’s told her, she can put two and two together.

    And fat chance that Dorothy did not tell her what happened. Because by now, their bond is strong enough to be a foundation for a skyscraper.

    Two: I think Danny is outright lying to Joyce here. I think he’s heard from at least Ethan, and possibly Amber directly. I think he also does not mean any harm in not telling Joyce this; he simply does not want her to possibly become an accomplice in this. I can understand this motivation. I’m not sure I could have done it like him; because I’m just too bloody honest by nature.

    • Kelandrea
      Kelandrea
      June 24, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

      I love this theory because then MAYBE AMBER IS GONNA BE OKA- oh wait she’s on the run from the law and they probably know it’s her and oh god so many things…
      Suddenly hoping she’s in a mental hospital getting treatment because that is the best case scenario maybe.

      • Woobie
        Woobie
        June 24, 2017 at 12:39 am | #

        Mental hospitals, in my experience, are not positive experiences. One is not always helped.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          June 24, 2017 at 1:04 am | #

          I can back this one up. There were some sick fucks in the one I was coerced into.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            June 24, 2017 at 2:20 am | #

            Yeeeep. As with any hospital, it depends which one you’re in. Abusive hospitals exist and they’re very dangerous for psychiatry.

        • drs
          drs
          June 24, 2017 at 2:53 am | #

          The local one in the comic worked a miracle for Ruth.

          • zoelogical
            zoelogical
            June 24, 2017 at 2:56 am | #

            i mean they gave her antidepressants and then released her in a few days

            idk let’s see how their follow-up goes

            • drs
              drs
              June 24, 2017 at 11:34 am | #

              Antidepressants and *group therapy*. The drugs wouldn’t have worked much yet.

              • Halpful
                Halpful
                June 24, 2017 at 3:54 pm | #

                true, although I think she got magic drugs that run on our time instead of comic-time, for the sake of moving the plot along.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  June 24, 2017 at 11:40 pm | #

                  Ruth did say they shouldn’t work yet. Some people do get a big rush from starting meds, partially out of optimism and relief, and that sometimes holds over until the meds start working.

              • Chris Phoenix
                Chris Phoenix
                June 24, 2017 at 5:55 pm | #

                Some antidepressant drugs can work very fast, sometimes, for some people. I know two people who felt better less than 24 hours after their first Wellbutrin pill.

                • Halpful
                  Halpful
                  June 25, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

                  neat, I haven’t tried wellbutrin.

                  with effexor, the day I felt best was when I had the prescription in my hand.

                • Deathstalker
                  Deathstalker
                  June 25, 2017 at 11:19 am | #

                  Some proscribed for anxiety, made me suicidal the next day. I wasn’t prior to taking them. Fuck no to trying them again.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          June 24, 2017 at 10:11 am | #

          Not always helped, no. But Amber certainly needs help from somewhere. She’s not headed in a good direction on her own and her support network isn’t up to the task.

      • Grethelwveir
        Grethelwveir
        June 24, 2017 at 6:41 am | #

        Honestly, given that Amber and AG are now (if they haven’t always been) fully dissociated from each other, I’m hesitant to wish mental health professionals on them. There are good therapists/counselors/doctors, and bad therapists/counselors/doctors, but “good” ones are even fewer where multiples are concerned.

        • Clif
          Clif
          June 24, 2017 at 8:34 am | #

          Amber has many problems. Actual multiple personalities are *probably* not among them.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            June 24, 2017 at 10:12 am | #

            I’m not really sure how much clearer Willis could make the intent without actually giving her a diagnosis.

  25. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    June 24, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    I guess she’s worried because she heard about Amber.

  26. Dr. T
    Dr. T
    June 24, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    How is it that it took this many strips for me to realize that Joyce is comfortably by herself outside?

    • Clif
      Clif
      June 24, 2017 at 8:39 am | #

      Her fear was an exaggerated response to RYan being out there. Him not being out there is bound to take some of the pressure off.

  27. bryy
    bryy
    June 24, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    TIME TO PREP FOR REMEMBERING IT’S NOT REAL.

  28. pjeseb
    pjeseb
    June 24, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

    At long last, the boner that Willis gets from holding his audience/adherents/addicts in suspense has wilted.

    …unless it hasn’t. It which case, he maaaay wish to see a doctor about that.

  29. Jess
    Jess
    June 24, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

    🙁

  30. abacuswizard
    abacuswizard
    June 24, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

    Am I correct in thinking that Joyce has gained a *lot* of self-confidence over the time skip?

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      June 24, 2017 at 12:37 am | #

      Oh, she’s been steadily gaining it ever since having a good talk with her father. And yes, this is a good thing.

    • miados
      miados
      June 24, 2017 at 12:53 am | #

      or taking off the hand brace helped her find it. the hand thing could have been a constant reminder which is why she is looking at it in the last panel or something like that.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        June 24, 2017 at 10:13 am | #

        Nah, she’s been doing that with her hand since the glassing incident. Whenever she’s stressed or thinking about it.

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      June 24, 2017 at 1:06 am | #

      Looks like it. It probably helps to know that her attacker is in jail, the hospital, or the morgue.

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        June 24, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

        Or the landfill.

      • Jhon
        Jhon
        June 24, 2017 at 2:46 am | #

        Blocking up a trash chute.

        • Emperor Norton II
          Emperor Norton II
          June 24, 2017 at 3:43 am | #

          We’ll just call Billie to take care of that, then. Head cheerleader, problem solver.

          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/rubbish/

          • Schpoonman
            Schpoonman
            June 24, 2017 at 12:19 pm | #

            Ryan makes one final appearance years down the line, Billie stomps on his head, and he disappears into a hole in the ground a la Space Jam.

  31. TamiDOA
    TamiDOA
    June 24, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

    These must be the Schrödinger’s Steps because at this time both Amber and Ryan are simultaneously in jail, in the hospital, and on the run.

    But how long can Willis keep the box closed before something starts to stink? 🙂

    • Orion Fury
      Orion Fury
      June 24, 2017 at 1:19 am | #

      But smelling a smell would thus be an observation, and would result in the knowledge and undoing of the quantumness of said box. Though I’ve heard that the thought experiment was supposed to highlight the paradox and show how qm isn’t a thing, or something like that. It was late and it’s late.

      • MatthewTheLucky
        MatthewTheLucky
        June 24, 2017 at 2:34 am | #

        It’s bull anyway, since the cat-killing robot is obviously the first observer in the scenario.

        No, really, look it up.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          June 24, 2017 at 10:15 am | #

          The cat knows!

      • vlademir1
        vlademir1
        June 24, 2017 at 6:24 am | #

        The point was to point out how broken the Copenhagen interpretation is on a macroscopic level regarding superposition, not QM in general.

        • Clif
          Clif
          June 24, 2017 at 8:41 am | #

          Yes. This. Very much this!!!

        • Orion Fury
          Orion Fury
          June 24, 2017 at 1:15 pm | #

          Thank you.

  32. Keulan
    Keulan
    June 24, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

    I thought Willis said nobody dies in DoA. Now I’m beginning to wonder if that’s true, and how badly Amber hurt Ryan in the previous story arc.

  33. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    June 24, 2017 at 12:32 am | #

    Oh crap. Public knowledge.

    Also the janitors at IU seem really lax.

  34. miados
    miados
    June 24, 2017 at 12:38 am | #

    Hmmm i thought they made sure to clean up police tape. Maybe a little got blown by the wind.

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      June 24, 2017 at 2:47 am | #

      Could be left over from Toedad’s visit.

      • miados
        miados
        June 24, 2017 at 12:12 pm | #

        with how long ago that happened I highly doubt that is where it is from. Technically possible but not for sure it is likely.

        • Jinxed44
          Jinxed44
          June 24, 2017 at 1:00 pm | #

          Twoish weeks?
          I’ve seen police tape bits last way longer than that.
          But most likely it is from Ryans mutilation, yes.

  35. Lala
    Lala
    June 24, 2017 at 12:40 am | #

    My heart literally dropped. I got freakin’ chills, man. Holy shit. Please don’t make me wait forever…..

    I mean, US. Don’t make US wait forever. Obviously.

    • Lala
      Lala
      June 24, 2017 at 12:41 am | #

      Also: has Joyce been without her brace for long? Have I just not noticed?

      • miados
        miados
        June 24, 2017 at 12:45 am | #

        with her stretching her hand in this i assume it to be very new.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          June 24, 2017 at 1:09 am | #

          I bet that hand stiiiinks, though. I had a brace on for a couple of weeks, once, and my hand was foul for three days afterward, Dawn and Purell be damned.

          • Lala
            Lala
            June 24, 2017 at 7:44 am | #

            She’s able to remove it to shower, and given how badly she hates to let anything get near that shower, she probably does remove it to bathe, which would probably help with that :p

      • Ivanka the Terrible
        Ivanka the Terrible
        June 25, 2017 at 3:18 pm | #

        It was a sprain or hairline or something, iirc.

        Time skip to the end of the week was probably sufficient for the doctor to okay unstrapping, there’s a level of injury where it’s more of a precaution against doing something more and making the damage worse, those usually last 2-7 days.

  36. mrj
    mrj
    June 24, 2017 at 12:46 am | #

    The main detail that jumps out to me right now is Danny’s face in the first two panels. 1st) Looking forward towards Joe, with a neutral expression. 2nd) Head turned slightly, but not making eye contact with Joyce and with evident tension around his eyes.

  37. two-star
    two-star
    June 24, 2017 at 12:49 am | #

    I’m inclined to think that Amber is not on the run or in jail at this point. Reason: when Becky woke up, she acted like this was her first morning waking up at Leslie’s place. If Amber was gone, she could have stayed with Dina, and would almost certainly have chosen to above any other options. So most likely, Amber *was* in jail, (and Becky was staying with Dina) over the timeskipped days. And now Amber is back. (On bail, or released after Ryan or his family have declined to press charges.)

    • zoelogical
      zoelogical
      June 24, 2017 at 1:08 am | #

      well, i mean. not if the police came in to go through Amber’s stuff. possibly especially not if the police came in to go through Amber’s stuff, there’d be a lot of scrutiny and pressure directed at their floor.

      haha oh god maybe that’s what got ruth stressed out to the point of saying “please”

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      June 24, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

      Becky -could- have stayed with Dina, sure.

      But that’s not to say she -would-.

      Because here is the thing: Becky is in her first real relationship, and she is absolutely, 100% terrified of doing things wrong. She’s made a few mistakes, and each and every time she’s ended up feeling really bad about it, but thankfully talking it out with Dina has always resolved things.

      And as such, she also does not want to move things too fast. She does not want to impose on Dina in general. And she -definitely- does not want to feel like she’s “mooching” off Dina and taking advantage of her generosity and “crushdrunk”* emotions. She wants to be able to (literally) sleep together with Dina when the time is right that they stay together, and not because she has no other options.

      *You know, when you have such a strong crush on someone that you are floating on skies.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        June 24, 2017 at 10:18 am | #

        This is one of the things that annoys me about this timeskip. In addition to the obvious waiting to find out what happened with Amber/Dorothy/Ryan.

        We’re left guessing a bunch of character development stuff, like what happened with the plan to sleep at Dina’s?

    • SarahSaur
      SarahSaur
      June 24, 2017 at 11:39 pm | #

      I mean, Becky cited the fact that Ruth was getting stressed covering for Becky – And I think that would matter to Becky, both because she is just generally very concerned about being a burden and also the fact that she desperately does not want to make the life of a suicidal person any more stressful for them.
      .
      .
      So while Amber’s presence or lack there of could have effected her ability to be there, I think that her desire to not upset Ruth is probably also pretty real.

  38. BigDogLittleCat
    BigDogLittleCat
    June 24, 2017 at 1:01 am | #

    I have this idea that Ryan stabbed Amber and we saw her pulling the knife out of *herself.* In which case, she’s in hospital and Ryan’s in jail.

    Joyce’s question makes me think that she’s asking about Ethan because he was directly affected by ‘it’ so now I have the idea that Ethan stumbled onto the scene during the fight, which would traumatize him, and of course push Amber into thermonuclear mode, so maybe Ryan’s in hospital too.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      June 24, 2017 at 1:04 am | #

      It could also just mean he was visiting an injured Amber in the hospital.

    • Benwhoski
      Benwhoski
      June 24, 2017 at 1:38 pm | #

      I think Willis referred to the blood as being Ryan’s in the hovertext, though.

      Unclear: Is hovertext canon?

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        June 24, 2017 at 1:58 pm | #

        Hovertext is canon. Ryan is tagged in the strip, and tags are canon, therefore, Ryan being tagged via his blood is canon.

        Let’s just face the music, everyone: Amber cut Ryan the fuck up.

        • TheGrammarLegionary
          TheGrammarLegionary
          June 25, 2017 at 12:44 am | #

          I just went back and checked… There was blood on Amber’s hand in panel 2 last time we saw her. THEN she pulled the knife out and there was a little spatter of blood. The blood on Amber’s hand was almost definitely Ryan’s, which makes the blood coming off the knife a lot more ambiguous, in my opinion. My guess is everyone got a little bit stabbed.

  39. BBCC
    BBCC
    June 24, 2017 at 1:03 am | #

    I don’t think Ryan is dead. If he were, that’d cause a few problems:

    A) Amber would be out of the main action, because she’d be in jail or, if not, likely expelled.

    B) It would kinda ruin her ‘you’re not destined to be a dangerous killer because you’re mentally ill and your dad is abusive, but you do need to get help for this, because violent reactions aren’t good’ schtick.

    C) There didn’t seem like there was enough blood for that to be a throat slice or artery.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      June 24, 2017 at 1:06 am | #

      He COULD still be dead though, if he got hit by a truck on the way to jail.

      As a bonus, the truck from the walkyverse gets redemption by running over someone who had it coming this time

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        June 24, 2017 at 1:26 am | #

        That’s a nice thought!

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        June 24, 2017 at 7:08 pm | #

        Regardless of whether he got hit by a truck or taken in by the police, either way he’s getting grilled.

    • zoelogical
      zoelogical
      June 24, 2017 at 1:21 am | #

      also like ryan’s shown up in a preview panel but maybe that is cheating

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        June 24, 2017 at 1:26 am | #

        Wait, he did? Where?

        • zoelogical
          zoelogical
          June 24, 2017 at 1:35 am | #

          i think it was that one supervillain circle thing. let me look it up

          https://dumbingofage.tumblr.com/post/160977723257/orb

          okay i don’t know what this is but i don’t think ryan would be showing up in this if he was dead

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            June 24, 2017 at 2:07 am | #

            I thought that was just a reference to Trump and the orb in Saudi Arabia.

            • zoelogical
              zoelogical
              June 24, 2017 at 2:59 am | #

              listen. not all of us follow donald trump’s movements with avid bile and acid reflux

              • zoelogical
                zoelogical
                June 24, 2017 at 3:25 pm | #

                by which i mean that the last thing i reliably heard about trump in particular and not the general political situation was covfefe

                ignoring his day to day activities is my form of protest and mental health-keeping

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  June 24, 2017 at 5:28 pm | #

                  That’s totally fine, I was just saying what I thought it was. Definitely not judging you for ignoring the evil cheeto – there’ve been days where I’ve had to do the same thing.

          • Dellaran
            Dellaran
            June 24, 2017 at 2:10 am | #

            That’s not a preview. It’s a parody of a photo of Trump in Saudi Arabia from a couple weeks ago.

            • zoelogical
              zoelogical
              June 24, 2017 at 2:11 am | #

              …i did not catch that reference

              • Clif
                Clif
                June 24, 2017 at 9:19 am | #

                Wait. Who is the unknown evil on the far right? Just past Ryan.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  June 24, 2017 at 10:19 am | #

                  Adult version of Leland, I think – Marcie and Sal’s childhood bully.

    • Joe Covenant
      Joe Covenant
      June 26, 2017 at 5:17 am | #

      re: c) We did only see a brief moment of something that no doubt lasted a little longer…

  40. zoelogical
    zoelogical
    June 24, 2017 at 1:07 am | #

    joyce, your punching arm senses are tingling. somewhere, is there an abusive dad who needs to be Punched?

    • zoelogical
      zoelogical
      June 24, 2017 at 1:10 am | #

      this is joyce’s superhero origin story. when will she be avenged

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      June 24, 2017 at 10:21 am | #

      The punching arm also works on rapists. Maybe it’s residual low level vibes from talking to Joe – “this one doesn’t need glassing yet, but if he keeps going …”

      • zoelogical
        zoelogical
        June 24, 2017 at 3:26 pm | #

        this is an amazing superpower and i would donate one (1) whole dollar to this initiative

  41. Bagge
    Bagge
    June 24, 2017 at 1:10 am | #

    I know that feeling, Danny. We haven’t heard anything either.

  42. Tenzhi
    Tenzhi
    June 24, 2017 at 1:17 am | #

    This comic just crossed a line!

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      June 24, 2017 at 1:21 am | #

      *hiss*

    • Orion Fury
      Orion Fury
      June 24, 2017 at 1:24 am | #

      This one?

    • Emperor Daniel
      Emperor Daniel
      June 24, 2017 at 1:32 am | #

      Who are you to police us with that kinda talk? I won’t cop to that, no indeed!

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        June 24, 2017 at 1:48 am | #

        Why are you like this

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          June 24, 2017 at 1:49 am | #

          (This is meant in a joking manner)

  43. transgressingwaffle
    transgressingwaffle
    June 24, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

    Come on Willis this is cold.

  44. @zombieundergrnd
    @zombieundergrnd
    June 24, 2017 at 1:30 am | #

    Alright. Who is the jerkass litterbug what left this reunion tour banner laying around. The show was three days ago and there is a perfectly good trash can RIGHT THERE at the bottom of the stairs.
    Wings (minus McCartney) and Beck are playing the house tomorrow night.

  45. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    June 24, 2017 at 1:35 am | #

    Comic Reactions:

    Huh, weird that the streamers from the policeman’s ball would float all the way over here. What an odd coincidence. 😉

    Panel 1: This panel makes me a little sad. Like, Danny was doing his own ukulele thing but now he’s running after Joe, having to try and stem the worst of his fuck up and apologize for him.

    It’s such a devolution of his growth back to when he was trying to apologize to Sarah for Joe’s insistence that he hit on her and it makes me want to wish Danny can continue to break away and grow without Joe.

    Like, not ending the relationship forever, but definitely taking a break so Danny can feel more comfortable just leaving Joe alone when he pulls a stunt like this and let him deal with the consequences of his own actions.

    Panel 2: All right, no sign of Ethan, so I’m going to guess he’s somewhere giving support to Amber/AG, and clearly something happened, I’m gonna guess she’s in temporary custody as they investigate what happened especially since Ryan’s been hinted to be well-connected politically.

    And Danny’s answer, could be brusque, but I dunno, looking at his eyebrows, it seems more worried like “yeah, I’ve been freaking out too, but there’s no news”.

    And it’s an important moment because it really highlights how much Joe tries to suck events into himself. Both Joyce and Danny are dealing with things way bigger than Joe having to wrestle with consequences of his own actions. Like, both of them are in the dark in what sounds like a stressful and scary situation involving a man who literally meant Joyce harm.

    In a world where Joe was not married to this twisted toxic masculinity and could be the friend he’s shown snippets of being able to be, he’d be the one playing support, not Danny or Joyce. He’d be the one offering a friendly voice to talk to with Joyce or the one going “hey, whatever on the ukulele, what’s going on with you with everything”.

    And it’s sad that he’s poisoning that in his fear of being infested with emotions. He’s not in a good place and he needs to get better before he loses the people throwing him second chances and overlooking his douchery.

    Panels 3-5: Huh, Joyce grabs that wrist the second Danny runs off and she immediately stares down wild-eyed at the police tape she’s stepped on. Like, that’s the tell that she’s dealing with a flashback and it makes me wonder how long of this interaction she’s been low-key dealing with PTSD symptoms in the background (certainly it would explain why her interactions with Joe are so uncharacteristically muted or why she was perched up on the ledge texting someone.

    Which just makes Joe’s douchery all the sadder that he just heaped his shit right on top of any already shitty situation. And that police tape… means that there was something official. Since Ryan is unlikely to be dead, I’m going to guess that Amber/AG might be in custody with Ethan stressing out about it as Stabby McRapist tries to use his familial connections to try and make it Amber’s fault that she fought back and defended herself.

    I want to know how Ethan, Amber/AG, and Dorothy are doing. Heck, how Dina is doing as her friend and roommate. But if I know Willis, we’re going to keep cycling between Becky and Leslie, Danny and Joe, and Ruth and Billie as long as he can stretch it out as he is a vampire who feeds on our anxiety (in his defense, anxiety is fucking delicious).

    • zoelogical
      zoelogical
      June 24, 2017 at 1:51 am | #

      joyce’s flashbacks in open spaces has been triggered by not having any of her friends around her, right?

      so like…if she’d been doing fine before, then having danny leave is going to be so much less fine now

      but like i feel like she is moving towards a “confronting her fears and the awfulness of the world” mode

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        June 24, 2017 at 2:34 am | #

        I think that, in this case, the flashback is triggered more by the general stress of the moment – Specifically thinking about what happened here and how it is affecting her friends.

        • zoelogical
          zoelogical
          June 24, 2017 at 2:57 am | #

          probably that too

          but like it was a legitimate thing where when she was walking around alone she saw ryan everywhere she went

      • 3oranges
        3oranges
        June 24, 2017 at 12:27 pm | #

        I think how Joyce handles being alone is a real change here. Previously, we saw her have panic attacks. But as Cerberus said, here she was setting on the steps by herself, on her phone.

        I wonder how much she knows about Ryan being taken down and how much that has to do with things. You know, when Joe found her, she immediately started looking at his rankings. But now we see she was knowingly in the place of whatever happened, looking to find out more about it. So I imagine that’s probably what she was concerned with when she was interrupted too.

        Anyway, that’s definitely what she is thinking on now, and you can see more difference. She’s not seeing Ryans around her. She’s holding her wrist, which is an injury but also a sign of her personal power, since she used it to stop a dangerous man. With some help from good friends like Amazi-girl.

        Like Rotunda said, stopping a dangerous man is what happened here too, but not the same super-good way. So I think she’s not having flashbacks like before, she’s remembering, from a position where she no longer helpless in herself but needs to worry about others.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      June 24, 2017 at 2:54 am | #

      That Joe’s immediate respons to his own bullshit is NOT to take a step back, is NOT to do damage control, but to dig in his heels and kick up as much drama as possible while whining about it all being about meeeeeee… is not an endearing trait.

      • chris73
        chris73
        June 24, 2017 at 4:25 am | #

        Thats not what happened at all, he ran to get away from the situation he didn’t want the situation to be about, he didn’t want the situation full stop

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          June 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm | #

          I was thinking about what happened between he found out about people knowing about the list and he finally running away.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      June 24, 2017 at 8:48 am | #

      My “worry scale” for Dorothy’s mental health has gone off the charts.

      Don’t get me wrong: Of course I was concerned for her physical safety since Ryan was spotted tailing her. And also for Amber/AG’s physical safety, and emotional well-being; they were likely always going to be part of this arc.

      But Dorothy was the witness to the whole thing. Geez, I can’t imagine what that does to someone out of the blue like that.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      June 24, 2017 at 10:29 am | #

      I’m worried about Amber. If she’s in custody, the police have to know about Amazi-Girl. They’ll have searched her room and found her stuff. If she wasn’t just wearing the costume under her street clothes, like she usually does. (Though she was wearing kind of a low cut shirt, so maybe not? They’ll still find it in her room.)
      That doesn’t lead anywhere good.

      I wonder if she ran. If Joyce is asking if he (or Ethan) has heard from her at all.

      • John
        John
        June 24, 2017 at 11:38 am | #

        Amber doesn’t usually wear the costume under her clothes. It’s too bulky. She usually puts it on over her street clothes. Often she carries it in her backpack, but she doesn’t appear to have had that with her that night.

  46. Goki
    Goki
    June 24, 2017 at 2:04 am | #

    Oh hell… Ryan is dead isn’t he? (I mean there might be yellow tape for non murders… I guess)

    • Cmd1095
      Cmd1095
      June 24, 2017 at 2:07 am | #

      pretty sure the tape is used for any crime scene

    • miados
      miados
      June 24, 2017 at 2:18 am | #

      you’d be surprised what you can live through.

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        June 24, 2017 at 2:28 am | #

        Although, as a general rule, the more unlikely the survival, the more unpleasant the life that awaits the survivor. Sad but true.

        • MatthewTheLucky
          MatthewTheLucky
          June 24, 2017 at 2:37 am | #

          Not sad in this case!

      • Danni
        Danni
        June 24, 2017 at 3:51 am | #

        can confirm after surviving 2 food poisonings

      • Ferdinand Rosenthal
        Ferdinand Rosenthal
        June 24, 2017 at 4:52 pm | #

        My theory is that Amber blinded Ryan so that he wouldn’t be able to stalk ever again, at least under really good cyborg eyes come onto the market which is around thirty years from now anyway. And she can claim – justly – self defense, and that she handed a rapist over to the cops, so in nearly every sense of the word she should be fine, Ryan will be defeated without dying, and Joyce gets some justice…I think. I can’t really speak about that last part, who knows what Joyce wants save herself?

        • miados
          miados
          June 24, 2017 at 11:30 pm | #

          I would be willing to bet that willis has a good idea what joyce wants.

  47. BenRG
    BenRG
    June 24, 2017 at 2:27 am | #

    Wait, what? What has Ethan got to do with this? I’m suddenly getting a very bad feeling about how that particular crisis may have worked out!

    • MatthewTheLucky
      MatthewTheLucky
      June 24, 2017 at 2:38 am | #

      Amber has a better relationship with Ethan. Whatever happened, Ethan would be the first main character she’d want to talk to.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      June 24, 2017 at 3:16 am | #

      Well, the theories are several. I personally wonder if Ethan is hiding Amber somewhere. Others thinks she might be in temporary custody and Ethan is supporting her.

      The reason I think what I think is because I also think Danny might not be telling the truth to Joyce, because it looks like he doesn’t want her to somehow become an accomplice… BUT, it’s not a hypothesis I’ll defend to the earth, and the other interpretations are at least as reasonable.

    • miados
      miados
      June 24, 2017 at 11:29 pm | #

      i figure if ethans best friend slash oldest friend was arrested that would have an impact on him and joyce does care for him.

  48. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    June 24, 2017 at 2:44 am | #

    OR HAVE YOU, LOIS DANE

  49. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    June 24, 2017 at 3:20 am | #

    Okay, thought just occurred to me.

    If Ryan’s alive and talking, he might have told the police that Amber is Amazi-Girl.

    (Yes, she said she wasn’t, but protestations of innocence simply confirm guilt.)

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      June 24, 2017 at 5:32 am | #

      Let’s figure Amber is in some type.of care,.as an inpatient.

      Concurrently, unless her butler at the Amazi-Cave puts.on the outfit*, there are no sightings of Amazi-Girl.

      People will notice.

      *Alfred did this for Batman once. It’s part of every superhero’s aide’s official duties.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        June 24, 2017 at 5:37 am | #

        I shoulda said also: Your idea exudes likelihood, but in case Ryan was so thrashed he has memory loss, or some other reason, there could be other ways for.the ID to get out.

        I can live with “Ryan’s cranial injuries obliterate short term memory,” by the way.

    • Flakky
      Flakky
      June 24, 2017 at 5:32 am | #

      That, or a search of her dorm room might betray her secret identity.

      Should have invested in a batcave. And a DinaButler.

  50. brasca1
    brasca1
    June 24, 2017 at 3:26 am | #

    Finally! Well it couldn’t be that traumatizing. Danny wants to make a life change, but I think he’d be inconsolable if something terrible happened to Dorothy and/or Amber. And so would Joyce.

    All we know it that the police were involved which rules out Dorothy and Amber burying Ryan’s corpse in the woods.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      June 24, 2017 at 3:42 am | #

      …. wait, so if someone buries a corpse in the woods, the police don’t get involved?

      I mean those woods are far from abandonned and a freshly-turned grave would get noticed.

      If they were SMART, they’d have tied him to a cinderblock and dumped him in Griffy Lake. Less likely for someone to discover the body AND less work overall.

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        June 24, 2017 at 3:45 am | #

        And don’t forget to wrap chickenwire around him, so that pieces don’t start floating up, while at the same time letting the fishies get their snack.

        • Edward Starsmith
          Edward Starsmith
          June 24, 2017 at 5:00 am | #

          One of my more stomach turning moments in life was dealing
          with a body that had been in a river for 30 days. I’d go with
          the quicklime suggestion from Smiling Cat.

      • Smiling Cat
        Smiling Cat
        June 24, 2017 at 4:35 am | #

        My dad always swore by quicklime, and he used to be a crime scene investigator, so a guy’s gotta think he knows his stuff.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          June 24, 2017 at 10:16 am | #

          Quicklime’s a bit hard for a couple of teenagers to get on short notice in the middle of the night.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            June 24, 2017 at 10:30 am | #

            Amazi-Girl is always prepared!

  51. Danni
    Danni
    June 24, 2017 at 3:47 am | #

    *to the tune of tradition* resolution!

  52. KSClaw
    KSClaw
    June 24, 2017 at 3:49 am | #

    Well GEE that’s not ominous AT ALL.

  53. Rotunda
    Rotunda
    June 24, 2017 at 4:58 am | #

    I think Joyce’s expression shows sadness and reflection, not panic or flashback. She is grasping the wrist she injured punching Ross in anger on behalf of Becky, and she is reminded by the police tape that Ryan was injured here by Amber on behalf of Joyce. Joyce has a strong moral sense, and probably reasons that either both actions were justified or both were crimes. But whatever happened on Wednesday is regarded as a possible crime by the police.

    We assume by default that Dorothy told Joyce what happened. She might have some reason we haven’t guessed yet to withhold all or part of the story.

    Our host doesn’t want us to know yet what happened Wednesday night (it’s for our own good, right?), but he does want us to see Joyce’s mood and concern for Amber.

    • Flakky
      Flakky
      June 24, 2017 at 6:20 am | #

      Now that you mention it, it is actually kind of weird that Joyce asks about it, as we can assume she would have heard from Dorothy, exactly as you say.

      So somehow I don’t think she’s heard anything from Dorothy, though neither would I think she’s hurt in any way for Joyce to worry.

      It’s strange.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        June 24, 2017 at 10:32 am | #

        I read that as more of a “what’s currently happening with Amber” than a “why is there police tape” kind of question.

        • Flakky
          Flakky
          June 24, 2017 at 3:53 pm | #

          Could be. Though I would be even more surprised if Joyce didn’t know why the police tape was there. By now I’d guess the entire campus knows about it.

        • Bicycle Bill
          Bicycle Bill
          June 26, 2017 at 3:30 am | #

          Why do I have this version of the scene from Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets running through my mind now?
          ————————
          The Dean is talking to Amber…..
          “You realize, of course, that in the past few weeeks you have broken perhaps a dozen school rules?”
          “Yes, sir.”
          “And that there is sufficient evidence to have you expelled.”
          “Yes, sir.”
          “Therefore, it is only fitting that you receive … a ‘Special Award for Services to the School’.”

      • zoelogical
        zoelogical
        June 24, 2017 at 3:27 pm | #

        maybe dorothy went home for a few days

        honestly that’s the kind of thing that would be really good for her i think

  54. Flakky
    Flakky
    June 24, 2017 at 6:16 am | #

    I wonder how whatever happened at the cliffhanger affected Robin. I’d be really surprised if she was suddenly back on the campaign trail (with any success). It somehow seems more likely that whatever trend she started got worse.

    Though with Not-Ryan in the picture, anything goes.

    Imagine her picking up a hat and a ukulele, serenading outside Leslie’s house.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      June 24, 2017 at 10:33 am | #

      She’s sitting on the curb outside the campaign office, waiting for Leslie to show up.

  55. John Madden
    John Madden
    June 24, 2017 at 7:41 am | #

    Dun dun DUN!

  56. What Was The Question Again?
    What Was The Question Again?
    June 24, 2017 at 7:55 am | #

    FIST OF JOYCE-STICE!

  57. Tenchan
    Tenchan
    June 24, 2017 at 8:08 am | #

    Those last two panels are just beautiful: dramatic and cinematic!

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      June 24, 2017 at 8:31 am | #

      Oof, what a gut punch.

      It’s daytime. I’m not really paying attention to the lighting.

      Then all of a sudden Joyce’s face is in the shade. And she and readers see the police tape.

      (Plus she’s back to holding her wrist even though the brace is off.)

  58. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    June 24, 2017 at 8:21 am | #

    I am practicing patience in waiting for… that story to unfold. In the meantime, Danny, don’t go after Joe. For your sake and his, let him figure out the next step.

  59. Clif
    Clif
    June 24, 2017 at 9:55 am | #

    I wonder what would have happened if Danny had volunteered the info that Joe had her at a 10 and left it at that.
    Back to what passes for reality.
    Most likely scenario is that, given Amber acting without restraint, Ryan is gone. With Amber’s skills she is likely physically unhurt, though this is not certain. With Dorothy’s testomony and the knife used belonging to Ryan, it’s likely the police are satisfied with self defense. Unless Dorothy spilled, the police have no reason to connect Amber and Amazigirl. The weak point in the story is the blocked door which goes to show premeditation, and with family connections the police may not be satisfied with the easy answer. Amber is a hermit anyway and this is likely exaggerated by the circumstances. My best guess is that Joyce knows Amber killed Ryan and withdrew, and so her question about Amber’s best friend. Asked of course of the person with feelings for Amber. And Ethan. Maybe the uke will help when he walks in on Ethan banging Mike.

    Insert obligatory Damn you Willis here.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      June 24, 2017 at 12:38 pm | #

      Then Danny would be a liar, because he had her as a four.

  60. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    June 24, 2017 at 10:18 am | #

    OK maybe I’m not that patient. ‘Ryan’ says Amber is Amazi-Girl, the cops search Amber’s room, find no trace of superhero anything. Barely-noticeable smile on Dina’s face.

  61. Commodore Jeep-Eep
    Commodore Jeep-Eep
    June 24, 2017 at 11:29 am | #

    About fucking time we got back to this.

  62. Micki
    Micki
    June 24, 2017 at 1:12 pm | #

    Ooooh, and she doesn’t have her cast on, yet she’s holding her arm…

  63. Remmington Steele
    Remmington Steele
    June 24, 2017 at 2:49 pm | #

    Suddenly, from nowhere, a cold breeze sprang up. The first frosts had been afoot last week, and the sky was beginning to take on the pale streaks of winter.

    The sky was big enough for many a grave, and laughter lay like ashes on her tongue.

    A hard anxiety ripped through the tendons of her wrist and the cold huddled deep in her bones.

  64. BP
    BP
    June 24, 2017 at 4:08 pm | #

    … Shit is he dead

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      June 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm | #

      He might be. At the very least he’s messed up enough that the police got involved. Given that he’s the son of a fairly important local figure, I can’t see it being swept under any carpets either.

  65. Eyebrow
    Eyebrow
    June 24, 2017 at 5:14 pm | #

    Amber castrated him and then called an ambulance and police.

  66. Emily
    Emily
    June 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm | #

    This would probably be more impactful if I cared at all about that cliffhanger.

  67. showler
    showler
    June 24, 2017 at 6:32 pm | #

    Well, I was close.

    ” June 6, 2017 at 12:55 pm | # | Reply

    My guess is that we will stick with Danny and Joe until they walk out the front door and through the police tape.”

  68. Indy
    Indy
    June 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm | #

    Ahh, there’s the ineffectual Danny we all know and tolerate

  69. Victor
    Victor
    June 24, 2017 at 9:16 pm | #

    So here’s an interesting thought:

    Amber is responsible for the hacking of Joe’s list. She’s got the skills to do it, and the fact that the list has been hacked and released is our evidence that Amber is fine.

  70. Jhon
    Jhon
    June 24, 2017 at 10:26 pm | #

    Ryan has been removed from the comic.
    Alive? Dead? Who cares…
    We won’t see him again.

  71. Ivanka the Terrible
    Ivanka the Terrible
    June 25, 2017 at 3:25 pm | #

    Oh, shit.

    Danny actually probably knows what happened to her last night (Ethan was likely her emergency contact).

    That puts the whole silly hat and dumb persona switch thing is a way, way darker context. He’s got a friend in jail (hopefully temporarily, rooting for self-defense for Amber here but even an accepted argument of legal self-defense usually involves a day or so in lockup while the cops ask around), and one having a minor breakdown about his list being published.

    That’s a “my life is spinning out of control” impending-doom ukelele, isn’t it?

    (Though isn’t that all ukeleles, really, when you think about it?)

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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
"...fuck no"
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Remake" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Remake
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 6d
www.makeship.com/petitions/tr... Wanna Tricerahoodie Dina plush? GO PLEDGE FOR ONE! We need 200 people to make it happen! Pledge period will end in 10 days!
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Tricerahoodie Dina Plushie
Dina is so small and quiet that she goes completely unnoticed by most people for long stretches of time. She doesn’t talk much — she prefers to observe. People and how they interact is a puzzle to Din...
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