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September 20, 2023

Oversexed

by David M Willis on July 30, 2020 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - Is a Song Forever?

└ Tags: amber, danny, faz, joe, richard, stacy

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    July 30, 2020 at 12:01 am | #

    Joe gonna Joe

    kinda surprised he’s even free to visit, but I guess all the ladies still kinda pissed at him rn

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      July 30, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

      … is it just me, or is Joe looking particularly chiseled and handsome in that last panel? Like, he’s randomly extremely hot there, far more so than panel 1 where he looks kinda frazzled.

      Is this just me? Am I the only one feeling warm tingles as I look at that last panel? Do I need to do the “I’ll be in my bunk” Firefly joke again? Cause I will.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        July 30, 2020 at 12:28 am | #

        No, it’s not, he wears stubble well.

      • Rabid Rabbit
        Rabid Rabbit
        July 30, 2020 at 12:54 am | #

        His dad’s around, he knows he has to up his game if he wants the ladies to come to him rather than to his father. So he’s taken care to muss his hair just right and get the perfect stubble level and just the right amount of chest hair showing (panel 5)

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          July 30, 2020 at 1:09 am | #

          Yeah I dunno if anyone but Stacey would choose Richard. He’s creepy, which is immediately apparent to young women, and Joe knows it.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            July 30, 2020 at 1:18 am | #

            Joe does look good in the last panel, though. If only he could stop talking.
            And Danny peppily running to find Ethan; that sweetie.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            July 30, 2020 at 6:49 am | #

            Stacy could do a hell of a lot worse; remember who her previous partner is.

            • Concolor44
              Concolor44
              July 30, 2020 at 7:47 am | #

              Yeah. She DID do a helluva lot worse.

              • SeanR
                SeanR
                July 30, 2020 at 9:38 am | #

                From philanderer to womanizer. I suppose that IS a step up. At least the new one is not a complete monster.
                I have to wonder how Blaine acted during the courtship. How many warning signs were overlooked as just quirks and not red flags. That said, we saw him act; both to the church group and when swaying Ross to his cause.

                • Ana Chronistic
                  Ana Chronistic
                  July 30, 2020 at 10:06 am | #

                  We don’t know anything about Amber’s grandparents, could have been a “this is the only boy who’ll marry you” kind of deal? Or, if they weren’t in the picture, “this is the only boy who’s ever paid attention to me, I’d better marry him” deal?

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  July 30, 2020 at 11:17 am | #

                  From abuser to womanizer. It’s an improvement, but still likely to end badly.

                  Blaine could definitely be charming. Many abusers can.

        • Hielario
          Hielario
          July 30, 2020 at 1:13 pm | #

          Or is trying to look different from him. I put extra effort in that if I’m going somewhere with my father.

      • Strangeshapes
        Strangeshapes
        July 30, 2020 at 4:10 pm | #

        I think it’s the tousled-hair look. Always ups the hotness, unless it tips over the edge to just Pandemic-ratty.

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    July 30, 2020 at 12:02 am | #

    Joe and Faz being in the same place seems weird.

    Like, I’m pretty sure one of them is what the other turns into if he drinks the Mr. Hyde formula. But I’m not sure which.

    • Chris
      Chris
      July 30, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

      I think it’s happened before, but I don’t remember for sure.

      • Lumino
        Lumino
        July 30, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

        Yeah, when Faz was at school the first time Joe was showing him around.

    • tim gueguen
      tim gueguen
      July 30, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      Try ominous. What if Joe becomes Faz’s mentor? That would be bad for both of them.

      • BigDogLittleCat
        BigDogLittleCat
        July 30, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

        I seem to recall Joe’s giving him valid tips on how to be less of a creeper?

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      July 30, 2020 at 1:16 am | #

      As Joyce once told Joe, “Does he talk and act just like you, but with charts?”

      Here are all of Joe and Faz’s prior interactions: https://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/faz+joe/

      • Human Bean
        Human Bean
        July 30, 2020 at 4:48 am | #

        Aaaah, so that’s how you do combined tag searches? Thank you!!
        People kept mentioning this function and I was confused.

        • Lingo
          Lingo
          July 30, 2020 at 11:24 pm | #

          Pass it along!

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      July 30, 2020 at 1:17 am | #

      By the way: excellent joke. Kudos.

    • Chris Phoenix
      Chris Phoenix
      July 30, 2020 at 2:01 am | #

      Before I read your comment, I was thinking – What would happen if Faz and Joe were both bi or gay, and got together? It would be really creepy*, but I’d kind of ship it just to keep them both from creeping on anyone else.

      * Creepy due to their personalities – I don’t think they’d be a good fit romantically, and I think they’d both automatically try, and it would get really weird. In addition Faz is way too vulnerable for me to seriously want him in a relationship with an older/more mature person anyone.

      • Hazel
        Hazel
        July 31, 2020 at 12:02 am | #

        Yeah uuuuh https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/stepdad/

        According to the time he came by in the linked visit, he wasn’t even 14 yet so I’m going to have to call this a bad if not awful take.

        • Chris Phoenix
          Chris Phoenix
          July 31, 2020 at 2:23 am | #

          Faz’s was later retconned a couple of years older. And I did mention the age difference as a reason not to actually ship Faz with anyone.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            July 31, 2020 at 8:09 am | #

            It wasn’t a retcon. That strip can easily be misread, but the intent there was that it would have been legal for Rachel to have sex with him under Indiana’s Romeo and Juliet law, but if Rachel thought that was gross, he’d reach the regular age of consent (16) in two weeks.

    • Tog
      Tog
      July 30, 2020 at 7:41 pm | #

      Quite a bit actually

  3. Hornet
    Hornet
    July 30, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Man, have I missed Joe!!

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      July 30, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

      Me too! Cover me while I reload!

      (Kidding. I just can’t resist an opportunity for a hellacious pun.)

      • SillyGoose
        SillyGoose
        July 30, 2020 at 3:47 am | #

        You really missed the mark on that one though.

        • StClair
          StClair
          July 30, 2020 at 4:24 am | #

          First Joe, then Mark? You really need to work on your accuracy…

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            July 30, 2020 at 6:46 am | #

            That was no accident, that’s a hit list…

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              July 30, 2020 at 8:05 am | #

              More of a miss list really.

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          July 30, 2020 at 10:08 am | #

          Boo, cocky

          • Hornet
            Hornet
            July 30, 2020 at 9:41 pm | #

            Which brings us back, full circle, to Joe.

  4. BlackScarabZ
    BlackScarabZ
    July 30, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Oh, Joe… Never change.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      July 30, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

      Judging by his father, he never will, though he will likely fall into a time warp at some point.

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        July 30, 2020 at 12:51 am | #

        After the last strip, judging Joe by his father doesn’t seem right.

        • Azhrei Vep
          Azhrei Vep
          July 30, 2020 at 1:28 am | #

          I believe the implication there is that Joe’s father is a time-displaced Joe.

          • Doctor_Who
            Doctor_Who
            July 30, 2020 at 1:29 am | #

            He’s his own dad, like Dave Lister!

            • woobie
              woobie
              July 30, 2020 at 11:46 pm | #

              I was thinking Philip J. Fry, but he was only his own grandfather.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            July 30, 2020 at 6:44 am | #

            I like to think the Rosenthal family album could be summarized as “Joe through the ages”. You’ve got photos of old timey Grandpa Joe with his new Packard, a portrait of Great-Great-Grandpa Joe with his 1880s sideburns, a decaying daguerreotype of Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandpa Joe with his rifle and Army uniform…

            • He Who Abides
              He Who Abides
              July 30, 2020 at 10:18 am | #

              Like Lieutenant Dan!

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                July 30, 2020 at 11:18 am | #

                Or the Popeye family.

    • Nick
      Nick
      July 30, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

      I actually feel like Joe has been changing a bit already. I think that part of the depth he’s gained in the comic as been due to seeing more sides of him than him changing; but I think that this relationship with Joyce has shown some small steps towards seeing women as more than objects.

  5. Nick Piers
    Nick Piers
    July 30, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    This isn’t even Joe’s final form.

    • Alex Boston
      Alex Boston
      July 30, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

      That would be Joe’s dad who is conveniently in the same strip today for comparison.

  6. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    July 30, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    Joe no

  7. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    July 30, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    I’m actually quite curious what Stacy will have to say about all of this. Y’know what with her not really being aware of the depth of her daughters’s psychological issues and/or the depth of her ex husbands maliciousness.

  8. JA
    JA
    July 30, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    Who’s the guy with the 5 o’clock shadow?

    (I’m kidding, if anyone thinks I’m serious)

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      July 30, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      That’s Eglamore.

      • StClair
        StClair
        July 30, 2020 at 12:32 am | #

        (my thought exactly, well played)

        • clif
          clif
          July 30, 2020 at 1:41 am | #

          Idra is looking different though.

      • brute
        brute
        July 30, 2020 at 3:23 am | #

        👏

      • Koms
        Koms
        July 30, 2020 at 6:37 am | #

        Haha

  9. William Leonard Reese Jr.
    William Leonard Reese Jr.
    July 30, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    One day Joe will learn that indeed there is a thing as *too* much sex. One day when Joe is withered and unable to move or be rid of the stench that comes with such activity.

    That shall be the day that Joe learns to moderate his sex life and his personal life. But that day is not this day.

    • Insanenoodlyguy
      Insanenoodlyguy
      July 30, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

      nah, that day this happens. (42 seconds in if time stamp doesn’t work)

      https://youtu.be/bb03u3u-o7o?t=42

    • Eusis
      Eusis
      July 30, 2020 at 1:21 am | #

      He’s going to have women biting him in the balls for not keeping up and learn to moderate that way.

      Wait, that’s lions, not humans.

    • Brat
      Brat
      July 31, 2020 at 4:08 pm | #

      Ehhhhh I mean orrrrr aromantic attraction can beget romantic attraction, and he may be at least partially aromantic. And why slut shame?
      He is still young, after all. If he wants to learn how to develop romantically it may rightly include aspects of aromatic attitude as well, if you ask me…

  10. Mra
    Mra
    July 30, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

    Joe’s looking shaggy, when was the last time he had a haircut?

    • Dr. T
      Dr. T
      July 30, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

      Is this the first time he had that overall look? I am struggling to remember.

      • Dr. T
        Dr. T
        July 30, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

        Going back using the tags it looks as though there was a design change in Joe starting once Malaya was done with him.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      July 30, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

      when was the last time any of us had a haircut

      • StClair
        StClair
        July 30, 2020 at 12:32 am | #

        I think I had one this year? but I’m not sure?

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        July 30, 2020 at 12:53 am | #

        I had one four years ago. Probably won’t be getting another.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        July 30, 2020 at 1:13 am | #

        I had one on Tuesday.

        • clif
          clif
          July 30, 2020 at 2:11 am | #

          For you it was Tuesday. For me, it was just a haircut.

          • woobie
            woobie
            July 30, 2020 at 11:47 pm | #

            +1

      • Wizard
        Wizard
        July 30, 2020 at 3:06 am | #

        Finally got one last week, for the first time since November. So I have that to be happy about.

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        July 30, 2020 at 6:21 am | #

        I have a razor, I’m good.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        July 30, 2020 at 6:53 am | #

        I’ve had electric clippers for years, so at least that’s been a non-issue.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 30, 2020 at 7:34 pm | #

        Last summer.

  11. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 30, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

    EYES EMOJI at Danny looking for Ethan.

    And it’s nice to see Amber with her family <3

    • Meagan
      Meagan
      July 30, 2020 at 12:54 am | #

      Yeah, I think Ethan maybe possibly dying might have pushed Danny over the edge to confessing attraction. I’ll take it. And at this point I think Amber can handle it too.

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        July 30, 2020 at 6:24 am | #

        They both know that they’re attracted to each other. This might be the moment where they act on it, instead of staying apart so as not to hurt Amber.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          July 30, 2020 at 6:35 am | #

          Why would they think hooking up would hurt Amber? If anything, I’d expect her to be supportive of her best friend (and ask for details on the sly).

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/04-of-mike-and-men/chummy/

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            July 30, 2020 at 8:17 am | #

            “Turning her second boyfriend gay too”? Not that that’s really the case, but it could definitely hit at her insecurities.

            She would of course support them, after all they’re obviously better off together than with a monster like her.

            I do think it would be better now than immediately after AG broke up with Danny.

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              July 30, 2020 at 3:38 pm | #

              Honestly I think I would have preferred them getting together sooner than now. I think the ship has kinda cooled a little at least for me. Plus it feels just slightly unfair they’d had wait until one was put in a life or death situation before they felt it was okay, considering how fast Amber moved on to Walky.

          • Sam
            Sam
            July 30, 2020 at 8:52 pm | #

            She was still VERY sensitive about the fact Ethan would choose someone else over her back when Ethan was faking being straight with Joyce. If it felt like Danny had been HIDING that he was gay, it could have felt like He’s Not Really Into You 2: Electric Boogaloo and could have theoretically been detrimental for her. She would have probably understood that he was bi if he literally said so with words though.

            Ethan sometimes views Amber as very fragile like she used to be when she was younger and has kind of fallen out of step with the exact types of help Amber actually needs (like, she did not need coddled about this exact thing even if it would have hurt her feelings or made her feel insecure, she doesn’t need shielded like that).

  12. Bridgebrain
    Bridgebrain
    July 30, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

    Its a bit odd that Danny doesn’t check on her more. Like, she broke up with him, so that’s awkward, but she also definitely just got kidnapped and hospitalized her dad.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      July 30, 2020 at 12:18 am | #

      I guess it could mean that he’s already seen her since everything happened. I agree that it’s strange if this is their first interaction since the kidnapping.

    • Jeff K!
      Jeff K!
      July 30, 2020 at 12:41 am | #

      He does seem to be respectful of her request to spend her energy on family, so there’s that.

      He is more flippant than I would have expected.

      • Ron again
        Ron again
        July 30, 2020 at 2:17 am | #

        Yeah, I also got the “I’m there if you need me, but you say you need family right now so I won’t bother you” vibe

  13. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    July 30, 2020 at 12:18 am | #

    I do like how Danny thought on not being too much for Amber yet finding a way to a least show some friendly support.

  14. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    July 30, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

    All this tragedy and loss has made me incredibly horny.

    • Newllend(henryvolt)
      Newllend(henryvolt)
      July 30, 2020 at 12:24 am | #

      I guess you haven’t been Oversexed yet, huh?

      • clif
        clif
        July 30, 2020 at 1:23 am | #

        Hey. What Yotomoe gets up to on his own time is his business.

        As long as he illustrates it on Devient Art.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        July 30, 2020 at 2:59 am | #

        I’d say no since I’m still a virgin

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      July 30, 2020 at 1:00 pm | #

      You’re still getting over Faz admitting that he’s not always great.

  15. Newllend(henryvolt)
    Newllend(henryvolt)
    July 30, 2020 at 12:22 am | #

    I feel a disturbance, as if shit might get complicated in the next minute. You got Yuri (Who hates Amber for BS reasons) somewhere there in the hospital balling over Blaine and since Eathan is there Naomi (Who also hates Amber for BS reasons) is going to show up and I feel like atleast one of these two parents if not both of them is going to say something antagonistically shitty towards Amber but I don’t know what. Probably having something to do with Ethan being gay or something stupid like that.

    Which reminds me I don’t know why Danny is such a rush to see Ethan, it’s just going to be one big harsh love triangle of watching his current crush cry over another guy who Danny himself told to fuck off the night before getting put in a coma.

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      July 30, 2020 at 12:51 am | #

      Hey you never know, Linda might show up too!

      • Clacker
        Clacker
        July 30, 2020 at 1:41 am | #

        And then Carol arrives for femur replacement surgery

        • clif
          clif
          July 30, 2020 at 2:13 am | #

          We can hope.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      July 30, 2020 at 12:54 am | #

      What if Joe seduces Yuri.

      • clif
        clif
        July 30, 2020 at 2:21 am | #

        What if Mike seduces Yuri for a nickle while Blaine watches, unable to interfere because of the pain and difficulty breathing. Without ever waking up from his coma, because it’s Mike.

    • Meagan
      Meagan
      July 30, 2020 at 12:55 am | #

      Oh that is gonna be awkward, but I don’t think Ethan has romantic feelings for Mike anymore…unlike the other way around.

  16. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    July 30, 2020 at 12:31 am | #

    I imagine Joe is being facetious, but he’s been hard to read. I feel like it’d be a lot easier if we knew what exactly happened at Becky’s party for Joyce to have fallen asleep on him like she did. They’ve been close, but they also had that falling out for a time.

  17. Hazel
    Hazel
    July 30, 2020 at 12:37 am | #

    I bet Amber’s wondering why her weird almost-brothers are constantly horny.

    • Newllend(henryvolt)
      Newllend(henryvolt)
      July 30, 2020 at 12:41 am | #

      As horny as they are can she really judge that much? I don’t see them make files upon files of slash fics. Not that I have a problem against literature though.

      • Meagan
        Meagan
        July 30, 2020 at 12:56 am | #

        Excellent point. I think Amber can respect horniness, but she seems to keep it to herself more (and strangers on the internet, if she shares her fic).

        • Newllend(henryvolt)
          Newllend(henryvolt)
          July 30, 2020 at 5:56 am | #

          Makes sense, Faz has no shame and Joe has tact but very little shame. Amber has enough shame for all 3 of them.

  18. Eusis
    Eusis
    July 30, 2020 at 12:37 am | #

    … I actually like how Joe looks like this. Damn You Sexy Unkempt Joe.

  19. Berlioz
    Berlioz
    July 30, 2020 at 12:40 am | #

    Joe looks more punished recently.

  20. Keulen
    Keulen
    July 30, 2020 at 12:44 am | #

    Thanks Joe, we needed to know that.

  21. Meagan
    Meagan
    July 30, 2020 at 12:57 am | #

    I ship Danny and Ethan and am hoping that this means good things.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      July 30, 2020 at 11:54 am | #

      Same. But I hope this doesn’t break Amber since she’s been through A LOT already.

  22. SuperFroakie82
    SuperFroakie82
    July 30, 2020 at 1:16 am | #

    I’ve been waiting for Danny to show up again

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      July 30, 2020 at 11:53 am | #

      And his hat too!

  23. Bagge
    Bagge
    July 30, 2020 at 1:25 am | #

    I like this cool and confident Danny

  24. bryy
    bryy
    July 30, 2020 at 3:21 am | #

    ….. where has Joe been for the past ninety million strips?

    • Tarpo
      Tarpo
      July 30, 2020 at 3:32 am | #

      Sexin’ probably

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      July 30, 2020 at 8:20 am | #

      Not involved in the kidnapping, basically.

  25. Beef
    Beef
    July 30, 2020 at 3:57 am | #

    Today’s strip left me with complete opposite feelings of yesterday’s strip despite having a disturbingly similar ending

  26. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    July 30, 2020 at 4:38 am | #

    Joe looking like a lone hero staring at the sea

  27. Wishwater
    Wishwater
    July 30, 2020 at 5:42 am | #

    Danny’s here! It’s been 84 years….I missed him, he’s always brings such a bright levity.

  28. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    July 30, 2020 at 6:44 am | #

    Danny has gotten over Amber. That makes me sad.

    • Zee
      Zee
      July 30, 2020 at 12:11 pm | #

      He’s been over amber for ages now. Amber has also been quite demonstrably over Danny for a good while

  29. thumb
    thumb
    July 30, 2020 at 7:27 am | #

    Danny meanwhile is clearly undersexed, if his behaviour is any judge.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      July 30, 2020 at 7:39 am | #

      Nice to see Joe and Danny again.

      Speaking of the latter, looks like he’s getting proactive.

    • C.T Phipps
      C.T Phipps
      July 30, 2020 at 8:27 am | #

      Danny: How DARE Ethan not be ready for true love!

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      July 30, 2020 at 11:15 am | #

      Or he’s just going ahead to check on his friend (and crush).

      Amber doesn’t want to interact and he’s likely had his fill of the Joe and Richard and Stacy dynamic.

  30. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    July 30, 2020 at 8:27 am | #

    Good to see that Amber’s mother and Joe’s dad are still together and, apparently, they are in a good relationship with each other.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      July 30, 2020 at 11:15 am | #

      Apparently.

  31. hof1991
    hof1991
    July 30, 2020 at 9:28 am | #

    Ethan and Danny. Stacy and Richard. Amber needs a hug from someone besides Faz right now.

  32. SeanR
    SeanR
    July 30, 2020 at 9:33 am | #

    Okay. Looks like Faz would fit right into this family.

  33. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    July 30, 2020 at 10:03 am | #

    Okay, Joe. Well, I must admit, I honestly never considered that possible reading of the word.

  34. Alan in DC
    Alan in DC
    July 30, 2020 at 10:23 am | #

    Pumpkins are fat, orange, and go rotten in a week.

    Thanks for the complement, Mom…

  35. Figureaddict
    Figureaddict
    July 30, 2020 at 11:37 am | #

    The expression on Amber’s face after Joe’s comment is fantastic!

  36. Some Ginger
    Some Ginger
    July 30, 2020 at 2:05 pm | #

    Pumpkins are very low in fat, have some protein and are very high in Vitamins A and C, and contain useful amounts of potasium, iron and B-6. They have a shelf life of many weeks (months in refridgerator). And what’s wrong with orange?

    Now Jack’s-O’-Lantern, THOSE be sketchy, rot, and have creepy-ass smiles with their dead eyes watching, always watching… eeuuuhhhhh.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pumpkin+nutrition

  37. Macunaima
    Macunaima
    July 30, 2020 at 5:36 pm | #

    Is Dr. Rosenthal a gynecologist?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      July 30, 2020 at 9:27 pm | #

      Osteologist.

  38. BarerMender
    BarerMender
    August 1, 2020 at 2:36 am | #

    Is Amber having a realization in the fourth panel?

  39. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    August 2, 2020 at 12:57 am | #

    can’t wait for the arc where Joe deals with his self floating!!!!

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