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Saw 19

by David M Willis on August 28, 2020 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - Is a Song Forever?
└ Tags: amber, joyce, sal, sarah, walky

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  1. BBCC
    BBCC
    August 28, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Sarah is relatable.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      August 28, 2020 at 12:19 am | #

      And to think, some people don’t like her. How can they be so mistaken?

      • JetstreamGW
        JetstreamGW
        August 28, 2020 at 12:22 am | #

        Honestly I don’t understand any of the character hate around here. All of everyone’s hate characters tend to be the most fun parts of the goddamn comic.

        • Valerie
          Valerie
          August 28, 2020 at 12:42 am | #

          Right!?

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          August 28, 2020 at 12:44 am | #

          Eh, it’s the internet. Hatred is a social norm at this point.

        • lightsabermario
          lightsabermario
          August 28, 2020 at 2:37 am | #

          I know, right?! I don’t get why everyone hates Ryan, and why he never gets to be part of the best character poll. /troll

          • SpaceshipPilot
            SpaceshipPilot
            August 28, 2020 at 5:23 am | #

            Even then, one can like Ryan as a character while still greatly disliking the person. Hating him is kind of the point of him. He’s the kind of person who is depressingly common in real life, just exaggerated enough to make their worst qualities clear to see.

          • SpaceshipPilot
            SpaceshipPilot
            August 28, 2020 at 5:25 am | #

            Even then, one can like Ryan as a character while still greatly disliking the person. Hating him is kind of the point of him. He’s the kind of asshole who is depressingly common in real life, just exaggerated enough to make their worst qualities clear to see.

          • Yet_One_More_Idiot
            Yet_One_More_Idiot
            August 28, 2020 at 2:41 pm | #

            Yeah, I agree! I mean, I can’t see any reason why so many people hate Blaine and Toedad, but I guess that’s just because the internet is hate given cyberform huh? xDDDDD trololol

        • Keulen
          Keulen
          August 28, 2020 at 2:55 am | #

          I mostly just hate the terrible parents, and also Mary.

      • Oberon
        Oberon
        August 28, 2020 at 5:12 am | #

        She’s mostly just a downer and a mood kill. She has depths beyond that, of course, but to reach them a person has to be willing to wade past the shallow shoals of her negativity and resistance to allowing anyone to be a friend to her. And not many would do that.
        If this wasn’t a comic Sarah would either be completely friendless and alone, or would be completely friendless and alone but with 5 cats.

        • clif
          clif
          August 28, 2020 at 5:28 am | #

          Can we all agree on “Damn you Willis?”

          I know, strips like this one make it hard.

        • KJ
          KJ
          August 28, 2020 at 12:00 pm | #

          nah, I’ve known a number of people like Sarah. People end up liking them anyway (and in some cases trying to “help” when it is unwanted) pretty similarly to the way people like and try to “help” Sarah in this comic

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          August 28, 2020 at 12:10 pm | #

          I like Sarah but I wish she’d stop being so aggressively cruel so often. Like, it feels like she just ignored Joyce’s whole thing about needing to do little things to show people you care and that big gestures aren’t enough on their own. I think I need to see how the whole Jacob thing continues before I finalize how I feel.

          That doesn’t really apply here or back at Galasso’s where she makes funny jokes, ,

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      August 28, 2020 at 10:23 am | #

      As I’ve said before, sometimes escaping from an awkward social situation takes a higher priority than having a functioning endoskeleton.

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    August 28, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    luckily, Sal’s there to show you how to navigate said quick escape route!

    also, on Garbage Roof, you can totes do the butt squeeze even with other people there, why not

  3. Aviana
    Aviana
    August 28, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

    Sarah nooooooooo

  4. Chris
    Chris
    August 28, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

    Joyce’s grin in the last panel is a bit concerning.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      August 28, 2020 at 1:32 am | #

      No, it’s adorable. Sarah and Sal are standing around being cool, while Joyce is enjoying the view without pretense or airs.

  5. William Leonard Reese Jr.
    William Leonard Reese Jr.
    August 28, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    Oh my gods Amber looks so smug and smooth in Panel 2 I love that smirk. I love it so much.

  6. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    August 28, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    One the one hand, cool places stop being cool once too many people know about them and they become trendy.

    On the other hand, one of those people is Sal, and she makes everything cool.

    That Walmart parking lot? It now has a bouncer and a guest list thanks to her.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      August 28, 2020 at 7:57 am | #

      But she doesn’t go there anymore. It’s too popular.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        August 28, 2020 at 12:54 pm | #

        Nah, she’s not a hipster.

        The real problem is too many people, plus Malaya knows about it.

        She LIKES these people.

  7. bubba0077
    bubba0077
    August 28, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

    The next book is going to open with the door to the roof being locked or alarmed.

  8. Octopus Ink
    Octopus Ink
    August 28, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

    I dunno. SAW 15 wasn’t TOO bad.
    Christian Slater’s always been at least a DECENT actor, and seeing what happened to Carrot Top and Pauly Shore in that movie was a hoot!
    It was no Sharknado 9, but then, what IS?

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      August 28, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

      I thought Ryan Reynolds’ death in Saw 18: This Time It’s Persawnal was the best in the whole series.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      August 28, 2020 at 12:15 am | #

      You like 15? But Corey Feldman doesn’t even show up until 17!

      (Note: I was going to use Macaulay Culkin for this joke, but A) he’s actually been pretty cool lately, and B) the idea of a Saw movie starring Kevin from Home Alone is actually a little too perfect.)

      • Foxhack
        Foxhack
        August 28, 2020 at 12:19 am | #

        Home Alone is basically Saw Zero.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          August 28, 2020 at 12:48 am | #

          A slapstick Saw movie. All the violence with none of the consequences.

          • clif
            clif
            August 28, 2020 at 5:23 am | #

            I Saw what y’all did there.

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        August 28, 2020 at 10:33 am | #

        Note that Mac recently (last few days) tweeted, “Want to feel old? I’m forty.”

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        August 28, 2020 at 3:12 pm | #

        I gave up after Saw 22, electric chainsaw Boogaloo.

    • brionl
      brionl
      August 28, 2020 at 12:15 am | #

      Enh, nothing beats Jaws 19. It won Spielberg the Nobel Peace Prize, after all.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        August 28, 2020 at 1:54 am | #

        I’ve found the whole thing with the Nobels too hard to follow lately. Ever since the committee that awards the Peace Prize won the Economics prize because of a technical foul on the third arkle against the Chemistry Prize committee. It’s just soap opera now.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          August 28, 2020 at 2:16 am | #

          It’s always been a soap opera, you’re just finally seeing through the kayfabe.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      August 28, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

      I’m still sorry I missed “Jaws 19” back in 2015.

    • foamy
      foamy
      August 28, 2020 at 12:22 am | #

      Shark still looked fake, though

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        August 28, 2020 at 12:46 am | #

        Of course it did, they used the same shark in all the movies, so it looked the same. All the repairs did was make it as good as they had it in the first movie, nobody even tried to make it look more real.

  9. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 28, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

    Is this low key implying that everyone has a little garbage in them?

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      August 28, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

      I mean, if you eat any seafood at all you’re totes consuming microplastics, so yeah.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        August 28, 2020 at 5:02 am | #

        If you eat anything at all, you’re more than likely eating some garbage.  Check out this list of what levels of various contaminants such as insect fragments, rodent hairs, mold levels, and other foreign matter is considered ‘acceptable’ in various foodstuffs at the FDA’s ‘Food Defect Levels Handbook’ website.

        Just don’t do it right after eating.

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      August 28, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

      Humanity is the eleventh garbage. Because deep down, we’re all a little garbage.

    • deathjavu
      deathjavu
      August 28, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

      I thought this was just an accepted fact?

    • abysswatcher1993
      abysswatcher1993
      August 28, 2020 at 12:44 am | #

      That is the moral lesson Forky took from Toy Story 4.

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        August 28, 2020 at 12:14 pm | #

        There was a fourth one?

    • Owlmirror
      Owlmirror
      August 28, 2020 at 12:08 pm | #

      The real garbage is the friends we made along the way.

  10. Bagge
    Bagge
    August 28, 2020 at 12:15 am | #

    Joyce is still helping them get together I see.

  11. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    August 28, 2020 at 12:18 am | #

    I feel you Sarah, I like to have an exit strategy for any social situation.

  12. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    August 28, 2020 at 12:19 am | #

    *play’s Eric Clapton’s “Running On Faith” on the hacked Muzak*

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      August 28, 2020 at 12:31 am | #

      You can see Sarah’s earbuds,but she’s listening to Bat Outta Hell.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        August 28, 2020 at 1:40 am | #

        There are far worse albums one could be listening to.

  13. Some1
    Some1
    August 28, 2020 at 12:25 am | #

    Wait, what happened to seeing Faz? Did Joyce just give up on that?

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      August 28, 2020 at 1:12 am | #

      I have been wondering the same thing! Also, what happened to Danny and Joe?

      The answer is probably “They haven’t done anything interesting since the last time we saw them,” but since they were at the hospital I am concerned about all three of them anyway. :/

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      August 28, 2020 at 6:44 am | #

      Yeah, that’s bugging me. Like, did Sarah and Joyce find him? And how is he taking Blaine’s demise?

  14. StClair
    StClair
    August 28, 2020 at 12:25 am | #

    “Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      August 28, 2020 at 1:56 am | #

      Thank you, Mr. Berra.

  15. CMasta1992
    CMasta1992
    August 28, 2020 at 12:26 am | #

    “Nobody drove in New York, there was too much traffic”

  16. Kitschensyngk
    Kitschensyngk
    August 28, 2020 at 12:31 am | #

    Great. Now they’re gonna bring their friends, and their friends are gonna bring THEIR friends…

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      August 28, 2020 at 12:42 am | #

      Don’t worry, this six degrees thing eventually eats its own tail.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      August 28, 2020 at 3:04 am | #

      Hopefully garbage roof doesn’t become to crowded to enjoy anymore. They should probably find a backup garbage roof just in case though.

  17. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    August 28, 2020 at 12:32 am | #

    Y’know Walky, it’d be awkward but I think you could still go for that butt squeeze. Or Amber. I’m not exactly sure who’s butt will be squeezed in this scenario.

    • Newllend(henryvolt)
      Newllend(henryvolt)
      August 28, 2020 at 12:59 am | #

      They just squeeze each other butts to see who’s better.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        August 28, 2020 at 1:01 am | #

        I’m biased but I’d say Amber’s got one of the tip top best butts in the whole comic.

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          August 28, 2020 at 1:36 am | #

          THE best.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          August 28, 2020 at 8:00 am | #

          Counterpoint: Walky’s butt is very round. He’s got citations.

  18. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    August 28, 2020 at 12:43 am | #

    Goddammit! I was already preparing to set the garbage roof on fire! I wanted to use my arsonist equipment, Willis! Better foreshadopw this moments of “smarting of age” before I burn down somewhere else! Oh well, I will go burn down John’s car. You don’t need a fanncy car to preach the word of god.

  19. Kensou
    Kensou
    August 28, 2020 at 12:57 am | #

    I was not expecting warm fuzzies in my heart at this point. So bless you, Willis.

  20. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    August 28, 2020 at 12:58 am | #

    I’m super busy right now but I think I OWE it to you guys to draw that butt squeeze. Probably in a week or something. And you the commenters can vote on who’s butt gets squeezed along with arguments for who’s butt should be the squeezed butt.

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      August 28, 2020 at 1:22 am | #

      I tried to come up with a thoughtful comment here, but I can’t seem to get past YAY BUTTS

      So, uh, YAY BUTTS!

    • AGV
      AGV
      August 28, 2020 at 3:48 am | #

      What about a circle of butt squeezing?

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      August 28, 2020 at 12:56 pm | #

      What you said above, Amber and Walky squeezing each other’s butts to determine whose is nicer.

  21. Endplanets
    Endplanets
    August 28, 2020 at 1:27 am | #

    Breaking Anime law here. You can only hang out on the roof of Middle School’s.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      August 28, 2020 at 3:07 pm | #

      Middle School’s what?

  22. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    August 28, 2020 at 1:57 am | #

    Nice. More people to share the view.

  23. BenRG
    BenRG
    August 28, 2020 at 2:05 am | #

    Remember the scene at the end of ‘Justice League’ when they’re all standing on that roof watching the dust settle and the plants grow? Well, I think that this is a reference to that. At the end of a major arc with the heroes all together and drawing a breath.

  24. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    August 28, 2020 at 2:09 am | #

    Amber is very smug recently…
    I like it

  25. rachel
    rachel
    August 28, 2020 at 3:06 am | #

    this is very sweet, I don’t think amber has ever looked cuter

  26. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    August 28, 2020 at 3:17 am | #

    please don’t say “leap of faith” while looking down from atop a building

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      August 28, 2020 at 6:06 am | #

      Y’know, I do think that only the lack of a grappling hook is stopping Joyce from Batman Swinging off of that roof here and now!

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        August 28, 2020 at 7:01 am | #

        Nah, Joyce is imagining reenacting the “I’m Flying” scene from Titanic with some hunky-but-pure guy.

  27. thumb
    thumb
    August 28, 2020 at 8:27 am | #

    Parlaying personal tragedy into a booty call? Yeah, I dig it.

  28. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    August 28, 2020 at 8:27 am | #

    I know the bubble is below Sarah but neither her nor Sal’s mouths are open but Joyce’s is. So was it Sarah or Sal who said that last line?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      August 28, 2020 at 12:57 pm | #

      Sarah.

    • SalleighG
      SalleighG
      August 28, 2020 at 3:10 pm | #

      Sal would have had an accent for a statement that long.

  29. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    August 28, 2020 at 8:59 am | #

    I’m not happy here. The garbage roof was a thing between Amber and Walky. Before opening it to others, she should have asked for Walky’s opinion. But I love how frank she’s with him ♡.

    • seregiel
      seregiel
      August 28, 2020 at 8:54 pm | #

      Except Sal has found her way to Garbage roof before… as has Meredith? I kind of get what you’re getting at in terms of the special role it plays in their dynamic, but it’s a public space that others have already stumbled upon … that ship has sunk already.

  30. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    August 28, 2020 at 10:48 am | #

    “Opening up Garbage Roof to…

    “Fr… fr-ends? Is that what you call them? When you trust? I don’t have a lot of experience with them.”

  31. goki
    goki
    August 28, 2020 at 2:46 pm | #

    I sometimes wonder what could have been if Blaine just thought to himself “Ya know what? I screwed up, may as well just accept my punishment and move on with my life” instead of what he did that fateful day.

    August 12, 2013 at 12:01 am

    (also ironic that he died nearly 8 years after, August 6, 2020 at 12:01 am)

    https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/warning/

  32. clif
    clif
    August 29, 2020 at 3:06 am | #

    I wonder if Danny got an invitation.

  33. Darkseide
    Darkseide
    September 14, 2020 at 7:55 pm | #

    The SAW series still won’t end…

    Also, I had a feeling nothing good was coming in this storyline

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today in #9chickweedlane i learned that i, too, would stop referring to "aunt xiulan" as such and swap to just "xiulan" now that you're marrying her son be pretty weird otherwise
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Halloween Name @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 13h
"sending the dogs" and "releasing the hounds" should have very similar definitions, and yet they are very much different but it'd be funny if mary here were thanking them for releasing the hounds
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Halloween Name @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 13h
Dumbing of Age: "Shaken" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Shaken
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Adam Serwer @adamserwer.bsky.social ⋅ 16h
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Can you put into words what that purpose is? You and the frog have really become icons of this protest.

There’s been a nice overall whimsy that has shown up. The frog is amazing. We had a bunch of other inflatable people here last night, too. I saw people playing Twister the other day.

What they rely on is fear. So by coming out in an absurdist manner, it speaks to them, to some extent, that we’re actually not that afraid.

It also dismantles their narrative a little bit. When they try to describe this situation as “war-torn,” it becomes much harder to take them seriously when they have to post a video saying [U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security] Kristi Noem is up on the balcony staring over the Antifa Army and it’s, like, eight journalists and five protesters and one of them is in a chicken suit.
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Halloween Name @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 16h
i guess for some reason i wanted to read more about the shfigurarts wicked figures and, of course, OF COURSE, there is fandom beef with any figuarts release that isn't an anime character, of course
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👻 Pablo Hidalghost 👻 @infinata.bsky.social ⋅ 16h
A thing that probably seems weird now. We didn’t know Vader had a mechanical hand till 1983. We didn’t know (for sure) that he had mechanical legs until 2005.
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preternia @preternia.com ⋅ 21h
Bandai S.H.Figuarts Wicked Glinda & Elphaba on display at NYCC.
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Sitcom People @sitcompeople.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
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Halloween Name @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 21h
Imagine mixing both oreos and reese's cups in ice cream at the same time, no one has ever attempted this before
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Not a promising number more than an hour in
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Got tired of her stickers peeling, so off they all came. The stickers are really for the pink one anyway, not the prototype version.
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Fit Check For My Barb O. Saur Era 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 @brentosaur.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Nothing but respect for my 13th Prime.
Valvotron in my hand lil man.
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Dan Hassler-Forest @danhf.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Samuel Beckett is *cackling* in his grave. 😈
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TFW you paid $1400 to see Beckett’s most famous work without knowing anything about it
One Star Review of Waiting for Godot on Broadway
I recently attended Waiting for Godot on Broadway and spent over $1,400 for two Row C seats (103 and 104). I'm a longtime admirer of Broadway productions and even hold a season pass for Shea's Performing Arts Theatre, so I came in with genuine enthusiasm and high expectations. Unfortunately, this show was unlike anything ! have ever experienced —and not in a good way.
What I encountered was not the artistry, music, or emotional storytelling I usually associate with Broadway, but instead what felt like an endless cycle of nonsensical conversation between characters who seemed trapped in their own madness. I tried-truly tried-to find meaning, symbolism, or even a thread of emotional resonance. I stayed through the first half hoping the second would offer clarity. But by intermission, it was clear: this was a waste of both time and money.
Keanu Reeves is an actor I respect greatly, but I cannot fathom why he would agree to participate in such a disjointed, inaccessible production. His talent was lost in a performance that defied reason rather than provoked insight.
To anyone considering attending: unless you are drawn to highly abstract, nearly incomprehensible theater, I strongly caution you against this show. For the average, educated, thoughtful theatergoer, it is far more frustrating than fulfilling. In my opinion, this was the single most disappointing Broadway experience I've ever had - an unfortunate waste of money and, more importantly, of time.
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NECA Sesame Street on display at NYCC.
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pictured: the amount of Jared Leto we're willing to purchase
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Something (things?) Tron by Hasbro to be revealed.
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Optimus Prime's appearance at the end of GIJOE #140 is extremely funny to me, because the penciler (Chris Batista) definitely knows "what Optimus Prime looks like" while the colorist definitely doesn't.
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Dr Mindbender, sitting in a tub of ice, looking at a... microfiche reader(?) displaying a New York Post front page
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Dumbing of Age: "Oscillating" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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✪ Jonathan H. Gray: “Professor of Halloweenery” ✪ @jongraywb.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Thinking about my great uncle and how about a month before he passed away he covered his back in lard. After that… man, he went downhill fast.
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Bride of Rehaminator - see pinned! @drrehaminator.bsky.social ⋅ 4d
Okay let's start some fights: Cereal Monster Edition Count Chocula - cishet man Frankenberry - cis gay man Boo Berry - cis bisexual man Frute Brute - Bisexual Trans Man Yummy Mummy - gay enby Carmela Creeper - cis lesbian
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Bill Corbett @billcorbett.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
The original Bad Bunny
The Ice Cream Bunny, huge and terrifying
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